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  <itunes:subtitle>The Pleven Panorama transports visitors through time, but not space. The huge, hand-painted panorama features the decisive battles of the Russian-Turkish War of 1877–78, fought at this exact spot, which led to Bulgaria’s Liberation. The landscape of Pleven, Bulgaria depicted is exactly what you see outside the building, making it seem like you’re witnessing the battle on an observation point. 

Bogomil Stoev is a historian at the Pleven Panorama, which opened in 1977. The opening was timed to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Ottoman Empire’s surrender following the battles and the siege of Pleven. The building itself is etched with the story of the siege and the battles, and because the landscape is filled with the remains of the combattants, this was the only structure allowed to be built on the spot. 

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Bogomil Stoev is a historian at the Pleven Panorama, which opened in 1977. The opening was timed to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Ottoman Empire’s surrender following the battles and the siege of Pleven. The building itself is etched with the story of the siege and the battles, and because the landscape is filled with the remains of the combattants, this was the only structure allowed to be built on the spot. 
In this episode, Stoev describes how the creators of the Pleven Panorama learned from previous panoramas, how the museum contextualizes the history of Bulgaria’s Liberation, and how this museum has become a symbol of the city of Pleven. 
Topics and Notes
00:00 Intro
00:15 Skobelev Park and the Remains of the Dead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skobelev_Park)
01:06 Bogomil Stoev, Historian at the Pleven Panorama
01:36 Our Story Begins in the 14th Century
01:58 April Uprising (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Uprising_of_1876)
02:40 The Start of the Russian-Turkish War of 1877–78 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_(1877–1878))
03:10 The Pleven Panorama (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleven_Panorama)
05:16 General Skobelev (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Skobelev)
06:00 General Totleben (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Totleben)
06:10 The Siege of Pleven (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Plevna)
07:00 December 10th, 1977
07:40 Episodes 47 and 54 of Museum Archipelago (https://www.museumarchipelago.com/tags/buzludzha)
08:07 Building the Museum
08:46 A Brief History of Panoramas
10:15 Pleven’s Enduring Symbol
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        &lt;p&gt;Skobelev Park just South of the Bulgarian city of Pleven looks like a typical Bulgarian park. A pleasant place to sit on a bench, walk around with friends, and enjoy the day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Which it is. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But to the people of Pleven, the area has another name. It's known as the Valley of Death, the site of the decisive battle of the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78, which ultimately led to Bulgaria's liberation from the Ottoman Empire after 500 years.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: Around 70, 80 thousand people, they died here and their remainings, they are here. They were not buried in the cemetery. They were using the trenches and they would put the bodies and just put mud on them. So here we cannot dig. You cannot do anything, any kind constructions and this is why when they built the museum in 1977, we are the only structure here.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;This is Bogomil Stoev, a historian at the Pleven Panorama museum — the only structure in Skobelev Park. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: Hello, my name is Bogomil Stoev. I'm a historian and I work in the museum Panorama Pleven and this is actually my job to work with visitors, to show the fights and the history of our city, city of Pleven. This was the main place of the fights that actually liberated Bulgaria and Bulgaria exists at this day because of this war and this fight.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Story of this war and this fight actually begins in the late 14th century when the Ottoman Empire conquered the land controlled by the Second Bulgarian Empire, leading to the long period of Ottoman rule.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev:  [For] 500 years we didn't exist like a country. We were not existing as a country, only as a nation. And after this war, Bulgaria was again on the map of Europe after 500 years.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;By the 19th century, Bulgarian nationalism started to take hold, culminating in the April Uprising in 1876. Bulgrians rebelled in towns and cities across the territory against the Ottomans. The Ottoman Empire's response to the insurrection — a violent suppression by massacring civilians — led to an outpouring of public support for the Bulgarian cause.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev:  Koprivshtitsa and Panagyurishte, those are the main places for the uprising. This is actually the punishment for the Bulgarian people because they made the uprising. 30,000 innocent people were killed this was a big news around the world.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The coverage of the Ottoman's suppression was one of the factors that led the Russian Empire to declare war on the Ottoman Empire. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: And one year after the rebellion on 24th of April in 1877, Alexander II, the Russian emperor, he declared the war. And this is the beginning of maybe [the] 10th, 12th war between the Russian and Ottoman Empire, but in our history, in Bulgarian history, it stayed as a war for liberation.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;All of this context is briefly presented in the first gallery of the Pleven Panorama — as visitors walk up the stairs to the main attraction: the Panorama itself.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: And this is the main part of the museum actually. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Wow. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: So this part of the museum, it's actually the unique part. The name of the museum is because of this part here: Panorama. The name starts in Greek. It means, looking around yourself and the idea is that when you go in a museum like this, you can see actually the real place.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The Panorama is huge: one unbroken cylinder of painted canvas wrapping all the way around the room.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: It was hand- made. This is on canvas. It's one big piece. It's 115 meters long and it's 15 meters high. 15 meters here in Bulgaria are like four floors of a building. 13 painters did everything here in four months.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Everything in the room — the lights, the atmosphere creates the illusion that you're standing at this location in the afternoon of September 11th, 1877. It's as if the canvas is a window — the mountains in the distance, the rolling hills in the foreground are all exactly what you would see if there were actual windows in the building. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: And the idea of this part here, or the museum is  actually to show you the fight for the place that you're sitting right now. We will go on the roof of the museum: this is the view. This is not a place somewhere around the city. This is exactly the place we are right now.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The focus on the exact location mirrors Pleven's geographic destiny — this was the only place for Russian troops and their Romainain allies to enter the territory because their access to the Black Sea was blocked due to the Crimean War. The trade routes and the paths over the mountains were such that whoever controlled Pleven could control access to southern Bulgaria and Istanbul.
So this is where the Ottoman Empire tried to stall the invaders' progress. And it almost worked.
September 11th, 1877 was the third attack on the Ottoman defensive positions. On the canvas, Russian troops — under the command of General Skobelev— stream towards you in two main divisions, with guns and bayonets. A third division of Romaian troops capture a nearby position.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: The whole park here is by the name of the person that you can see over there on the white horse. So this is General Skobelev, he was in charge of the soldiers here. And from here he wanted help to go and liberate the city.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;We, the museum visitors, are put in the position of the defenders, the Ottoman soldiers, surrendered by two battlefields.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: The only successful fight at this day is the fight here for the place of the museum. And this is why we are here. So 13,000 soldiers came from the green hills that you can see over there that were crossing the Valley. They separated on two and they attacked at the same time. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Looking north, you can see the city of Pleven as it would have looked in 1877, one of the largest cities in Bulgaria at the time. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The battle resulted in so many casualties that the attackers switched tactics, and brought in General Totleben. Totleben decided to conduct a siege of the city of Pleven, still under Ottoman control. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: The idea of Totleben was very different. So he didn't rely on soldiers to fight for the place. As you can see here. His idea is actually to use the place. You can see that the city is in the Valley. It's very easy to surround the place so that nothing goes in and nothing goes out.  For 45 days, no food, no water, the water mills that were in the city, they were not working. The soldiers, they started to die from hunger, from diseases. Actually the people of Pleven started to actually die from hunger and diseases. They are telling that the city was like tomb.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The siege was successful in forcing the Ottoman soldiers to break out of the city: after another battle, the Ottomans surrendered on December 10, 1877. Bulgaria was finally back on the map of Europe.
The Pleven Panorama museum opened exactly 100 years later, on December 10th, 1977. 100 years is a long time, and Bulgaria looked very different. In 1977 Bulgaria was a satellite state of the USSR, operating under a communist regime. I asked Stoev if the political environment — and the story of Russian armies contributing to Bulgarian liberation — was one of the reasons for creating the panorama.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: Our museum was made from volunteers and from donations and it's not part of any political things, we were just representing the fights that actually liberated Bulgaria. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;And so that's different than something like Buzludzha?  &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: Yeah, yeah that's made from, for the government and from the government and it was something different as an idea.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Buzludzha — the concrete flying saucer monument that we covered on episodes 47 and 54 of Museum Archipelago — comes to mind because it was built only a few years later in 1981, and it has a similar feel: an imposing, disk-shaped structure of pressed concrete with a vertical column or two. But the comparison ends there. While Buzludzha was constructed to make the communist party look futuristic, the architecture of the Pleven Panorama itself is etched with the story of the siege and the battles of the past.&lt;/p&gt;

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Bogomil Stoev: This building was built to be the museum. It was not something that already existed and they used. This vision of the building here is something that was part of the history of the city. How?  You saw the spikes, they represent the two battlefields. You can see the structure that is on the rings.The first three rings that are the upper part of the museum. Every ring represents one attempt to liberate the city. And then the siege is the big ring that's down in the museum. So this is the idea. When you see the museum to see the three attempts, then the siege and the two battlefields.&lt;/p&gt;
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    &lt;p&gt;The shape of the building supports the massive panorama inside.
  1977 was long after the peak in popularity of European panorama painting or cycloramas, as they tend to be called in North America. They were a way to create an immersive environment by hand — an early example of virtual reality. The landscapes and the battles they portrayed — almost always in custom built-buildings — presented spectacle without words, and like modern immersive experiences, each little detail helped complete the illusion. 
  The Pleven Panorama learned from the panoramas before it. The studio that built it had experience with other panoramas. They knew the color temperature the lights had to use to make it feel like sunshine. They knew how sensitive the canvas is to heat and humidity, so they built the museum so that only 30 people would be in the room at any one time, for a maximum of 10 minutes — but with two staircases leading to other galleries, the visitor flow could be continuous. 
  The surface in front of the panorama canvas, but beyond the viewing platform, is littered with artifacts — cannons, makeshift camps, broken wagon wheels. 
  It's all positioned to create the illusion that the scene continues into the painted canvas. &lt;/p&gt;
  
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Bogomil Stoev: Everything that you can see, the uniforms, all the weapons. They are actually real, they were not made, they're found here and they're real. And they were used in the war.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Of the approximately 100 panoramas in the world, the Pleven Panorama is one of only 19 extent examples in the classical style. &lt;/p&gt;

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  Bogomil Stoev: This is the old way how you make a museum like this, you make a painting, that's handmade.  It's on canvas. It's with oil painting. And it was made here on the place of the museum. The modern panoramas they can be prints or even they can be all digital, where you have even sound, you'll have some kind of lightning, even a smell.  It can be full experience for the visitor. So this is not a modern type of museum. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
    
&lt;p&gt;It's as if lot of things came together perfectly to create this panorama — the innovation was doing the older-style panorama correctly, with enough resources, and with the technology to protect the canvas. In a city teaming with nearly 200 monuments to the events of 1877, the Pleven Panorama has become the most enduring symbol of the city and the decisive battle.&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;p&gt;Bogomil Stoev: And every place is a symbol for something, every city in Bulgaria. But when you tell someone Pleven, they think about this, they think about the war, liberation of Bulgaria and the Panorama. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Bogomil Stoev is a historian at the Pleven Panorama, which opened in 1977. The opening was timed to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Ottoman Empire’s surrender following the battles and the siege of Pleven. The building itself is etched with the story of the siege and the battles, and because the landscape is filled with the remains of the combattants, this was the only structure allowed to be built on the spot. </p>

<p>In this episode, Stoev describes how the creators of the Pleven Panorama learned from previous panoramas, how the museum contextualizes the history of Bulgaria’s Liberation, and how this museum has become a symbol of the city of Pleven. </p>

<h3>Topics and Notes</h3>

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<li>00:00 Intro</li>
<li>00:15 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skobelev_Park" rel="nofollow">Skobelev Park and the Remains of the Dead</a></li>
<li>01:06 Bogomil Stoev, Historian at the Pleven Panorama</li>
<li>01:36 Our Story Begins in the 14th Century</li>
<li>01:58 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Uprising_of_1876" rel="nofollow">April Uprising</a></li>
<li>02:40 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_(1877%E2%80%931878)" rel="nofollow">The Start of the Russian-Turkish War of 1877–78</a></li>
<li>03:10 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleven_Panorama" rel="nofollow">The Pleven Panorama</a></li>
<li>05:16 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Skobelev" rel="nofollow">General Skobelev</a></li>
<li>06:00 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Totleben" rel="nofollow">General Totleben</a></li>
<li>06:10 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Plevna" rel="nofollow">The Siege of Pleven</a></li>
<li>07:00 December 10th, 1977</li>
<li>07:40 <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/tags/buzludzha" rel="nofollow">Episodes 47 and 54 of Museum Archipelago</a></li>
<li>08:07 Building the Museum</li>
<li>08:46 A Brief History of Panoramas</li>
<li>10:15 Pleven’s Enduring Symbol</li>
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        <p>Skobelev Park just South of the Bulgarian city of Pleven looks like a typical Bulgarian park. A pleasant place to sit on a bench, walk around with friends, and enjoy the day.</p>

<p>Which it is. </p>

<p>But to the people of Pleven, the area has another name. It's known as the Valley of Death, the site of the decisive battle of the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78, which ultimately led to Bulgaria's liberation from the Ottoman Empire after 500 years.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: Around 70, 80 thousand people, they died here and their remainings, they are here. They were not buried in the cemetery. They were using the trenches and they would put the bodies and just put mud on them. So here we cannot dig. You cannot do anything, any kind constructions and this is why when they built the museum in 1977, we are the only structure here.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is Bogomil Stoev, a historian at the Pleven Panorama museum — the only structure in Skobelev Park. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: Hello, my name is Bogomil Stoev. I'm a historian and I work in the museum Panorama Pleven and this is actually my job to work with visitors, to show the fights and the history of our city, city of Pleven. This was the main place of the fights that actually liberated Bulgaria and Bulgaria exists at this day because of this war and this fight.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Story of this war and this fight actually begins in the late 14th century when the Ottoman Empire conquered the land controlled by the Second Bulgarian Empire, leading to the long period of Ottoman rule.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev:  [For] 500 years we didn't exist like a country. We were not existing as a country, only as a nation. And after this war, Bulgaria was again on the map of Europe after 500 years.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>By the 19th century, Bulgarian nationalism started to take hold, culminating in the April Uprising in 1876. Bulgrians rebelled in towns and cities across the territory against the Ottomans. The Ottoman Empire's response to the insurrection — a violent suppression by massacring civilians — led to an outpouring of public support for the Bulgarian cause.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev:  Koprivshtitsa and Panagyurishte, those are the main places for the uprising. This is actually the punishment for the Bulgarian people because they made the uprising. 30,000 innocent people were killed this was a big news around the world.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The coverage of the Ottoman's suppression was one of the factors that led the Russian Empire to declare war on the Ottoman Empire. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: And one year after the rebellion on 24th of April in 1877, Alexander II, the Russian emperor, he declared the war. And this is the beginning of maybe [the] 10th, 12th war between the Russian and Ottoman Empire, but in our history, in Bulgarian history, it stayed as a war for liberation.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>All of this context is briefly presented in the first gallery of the Pleven Panorama — as visitors walk up the stairs to the main attraction: the Panorama itself.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: And this is the main part of the museum actually. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Wow. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: So this part of the museum, it's actually the unique part. The name of the museum is because of this part here: Panorama. The name starts in Greek. It means, looking around yourself and the idea is that when you go in a museum like this, you can see actually the real place.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The Panorama is huge: one unbroken cylinder of painted canvas wrapping all the way around the room.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: It was hand- made. This is on canvas. It's one big piece. It's 115 meters long and it's 15 meters high. 15 meters here in Bulgaria are like four floors of a building. 13 painters did everything here in four months.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Everything in the room — the lights, the atmosphere creates the illusion that you're standing at this location in the afternoon of September 11th, 1877. It's as if the canvas is a window — the mountains in the distance, the rolling hills in the foreground are all exactly what you would see if there were actual windows in the building. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: And the idea of this part here, or the museum is  actually to show you the fight for the place that you're sitting right now. We will go on the roof of the museum: this is the view. This is not a place somewhere around the city. This is exactly the place we are right now.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The focus on the exact location mirrors Pleven's geographic destiny — this was the only place for Russian troops and their Romainain allies to enter the territory because their access to the Black Sea was blocked due to the Crimean War. The trade routes and the paths over the mountains were such that whoever controlled Pleven could control access to southern Bulgaria and Istanbul.
So this is where the Ottoman Empire tried to stall the invaders' progress. And it almost worked.
September 11th, 1877 was the third attack on the Ottoman defensive positions. On the canvas, Russian troops — under the command of General Skobelev— stream towards you in two main divisions, with guns and bayonets. A third division of Romaian troops capture a nearby position.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: The whole park here is by the name of the person that you can see over there on the white horse. So this is General Skobelev, he was in charge of the soldiers here. And from here he wanted help to go and liberate the city.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>We, the museum visitors, are put in the position of the defenders, the Ottoman soldiers, surrendered by two battlefields.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: The only successful fight at this day is the fight here for the place of the museum. And this is why we are here. So 13,000 soldiers came from the green hills that you can see over there that were crossing the Valley. They separated on two and they attacked at the same time. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Looking north, you can see the city of Pleven as it would have looked in 1877, one of the largest cities in Bulgaria at the time. </p>

<p>The battle resulted in so many casualties that the attackers switched tactics, and brought in General Totleben. Totleben decided to conduct a siege of the city of Pleven, still under Ottoman control. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: The idea of Totleben was very different. So he didn't rely on soldiers to fight for the place. As you can see here. His idea is actually to use the place. You can see that the city is in the Valley. It's very easy to surround the place so that nothing goes in and nothing goes out.  For 45 days, no food, no water, the water mills that were in the city, they were not working. The soldiers, they started to die from hunger, from diseases. Actually the people of Pleven started to actually die from hunger and diseases. They are telling that the city was like tomb.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The siege was successful in forcing the Ottoman soldiers to break out of the city: after another battle, the Ottomans surrendered on December 10, 1877. Bulgaria was finally back on the map of Europe.
The Pleven Panorama museum opened exactly 100 years later, on December 10th, 1977. 100 years is a long time, and Bulgaria looked very different. In 1977 Bulgaria was a satellite state of the USSR, operating under a communist regime. I asked Stoev if the political environment — and the story of Russian armies contributing to Bulgarian liberation — was one of the reasons for creating the panorama.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: Our museum was made from volunteers and from donations and it's not part of any political things, we were just representing the fights that actually liberated Bulgaria. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>And so that's different than something like Buzludzha?  </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: Yeah, yeah that's made from, for the government and from the government and it was something different as an idea.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Buzludzha — the concrete flying saucer monument that we covered on episodes 47 and 54 of Museum Archipelago — comes to mind because it was built only a few years later in 1981, and it has a similar feel: an imposing, disk-shaped structure of pressed concrete with a vertical column or two. But the comparison ends there. While Buzludzha was constructed to make the communist party look futuristic, the architecture of the Pleven Panorama itself is etched with the story of the siege and the battles of the past.</p>

<blockquote><p>
Bogomil Stoev: This building was built to be the museum. It was not something that already existed and they used. This vision of the building here is something that was part of the history of the city. How?  You saw the spikes, they represent the two battlefields. You can see the structure that is on the rings.The first three rings that are the upper part of the museum. Every ring represents one attempt to liberate the city. And then the siege is the big ring that's down in the museum. So this is the idea. When you see the museum to see the three attempts, then the siege and the two battlefields.</p>
</blockquote>
  
    
    <p>The shape of the building supports the massive panorama inside.
  1977 was long after the peak in popularity of European panorama painting or cycloramas, as they tend to be called in North America. They were a way to create an immersive environment by hand — an early example of virtual reality. The landscapes and the battles they portrayed — almost always in custom built-buildings — presented spectacle without words, and like modern immersive experiences, each little detail helped complete the illusion. 
  The Pleven Panorama learned from the panoramas before it. The studio that built it had experience with other panoramas. They knew the color temperature the lights had to use to make it feel like sunshine. They knew how sensitive the canvas is to heat and humidity, so they built the museum so that only 30 people would be in the room at any one time, for a maximum of 10 minutes — but with two staircases leading to other galleries, the visitor flow could be continuous. 
  The surface in front of the panorama canvas, but beyond the viewing platform, is littered with artifacts — cannons, makeshift camps, broken wagon wheels. 
  It's all positioned to create the illusion that the scene continues into the painted canvas. </p>
  
<blockquote><p>
Bogomil Stoev: Everything that you can see, the uniforms, all the weapons. They are actually real, they were not made, they're found here and they're real. And they were used in the war.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Of the approximately 100 panoramas in the world, the Pleven Panorama is one of only 19 extent examples in the classical style. </p>

<blockquote><p>
  Bogomil Stoev: This is the old way how you make a museum like this, you make a painting, that's handmade.  It's on canvas. It's with oil painting. And it was made here on the place of the museum. The modern panoramas they can be prints or even they can be all digital, where you have even sound, you'll have some kind of lightning, even a smell.  It can be full experience for the visitor. So this is not a modern type of museum. </p></blockquote>
    
<p>It's as if lot of things came together perfectly to create this panorama — the innovation was doing the older-style panorama correctly, with enough resources, and with the technology to protect the canvas. In a city teaming with nearly 200 monuments to the events of 1877, the Pleven Panorama has become the most enduring symbol of the city and the decisive battle.</p>
  <blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: And every place is a symbol for something, every city in Bulgaria. But when you tell someone Pleven, they think about this, they think about the war, liberation of Bulgaria and the Panorama. </p>
</blockquote>
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    <![CDATA[<p>The Pleven Panorama transports visitors through time, but not space. The huge, hand-painted panorama features the decisive battles of the Russian-Turkish War of 1877–78, fought at this exact spot, which led to Bulgaria’s Liberation. The landscape of Pleven, Bulgaria depicted is exactly what you see outside the building, making it seem like you’re witnessing the battle on an observation point. </p>

<p>Bogomil Stoev is a historian at the Pleven Panorama, which opened in 1977. The opening was timed to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Ottoman Empire’s surrender following the battles and the siege of Pleven. The building itself is etched with the story of the siege and the battles, and because the landscape is filled with the remains of the combattants, this was the only structure allowed to be built on the spot. </p>

<p>In this episode, Stoev describes how the creators of the Pleven Panorama learned from previous panoramas, how the museum contextualizes the history of Bulgaria’s Liberation, and how this museum has become a symbol of the city of Pleven. </p>

<h3>Topics and Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>00:00 Intro</li>
<li>00:15 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skobelev_Park" rel="nofollow">Skobelev Park and the Remains of the Dead</a></li>
<li>01:06 Bogomil Stoev, Historian at the Pleven Panorama</li>
<li>01:36 Our Story Begins in the 14th Century</li>
<li>01:58 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Uprising_of_1876" rel="nofollow">April Uprising</a></li>
<li>02:40 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Turkish_War_(1877%E2%80%931878)" rel="nofollow">The Start of the Russian-Turkish War of 1877–78</a></li>
<li>03:10 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleven_Panorama" rel="nofollow">The Pleven Panorama</a></li>
<li>05:16 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Skobelev" rel="nofollow">General Skobelev</a></li>
<li>06:00 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Totleben" rel="nofollow">General Totleben</a></li>
<li>06:10 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Plevna" rel="nofollow">The Siege of Pleven</a></li>
<li>07:00 December 10th, 1977</li>
<li>07:40 <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/tags/buzludzha" rel="nofollow">Episodes 47 and 54 of Museum Archipelago</a></li>
<li>08:07 Building the Museum</li>
<li>08:46 A Brief History of Panoramas</li>
<li>10:15 Pleven’s Enduring Symbol</li>
<li>11:20 <a href="http://jointhemuseum.club" rel="nofollow">Outro | Join Club Archipelago 🏖</a></li>
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        <p>Skobelev Park just South of the Bulgarian city of Pleven looks like a typical Bulgarian park. A pleasant place to sit on a bench, walk around with friends, and enjoy the day.</p>

<p>Which it is. </p>

<p>But to the people of Pleven, the area has another name. It's known as the Valley of Death, the site of the decisive battle of the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78, which ultimately led to Bulgaria's liberation from the Ottoman Empire after 500 years.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: Around 70, 80 thousand people, they died here and their remainings, they are here. They were not buried in the cemetery. They were using the trenches and they would put the bodies and just put mud on them. So here we cannot dig. You cannot do anything, any kind constructions and this is why when they built the museum in 1977, we are the only structure here.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is Bogomil Stoev, a historian at the Pleven Panorama museum — the only structure in Skobelev Park. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: Hello, my name is Bogomil Stoev. I'm a historian and I work in the museum Panorama Pleven and this is actually my job to work with visitors, to show the fights and the history of our city, city of Pleven. This was the main place of the fights that actually liberated Bulgaria and Bulgaria exists at this day because of this war and this fight.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Story of this war and this fight actually begins in the late 14th century when the Ottoman Empire conquered the land controlled by the Second Bulgarian Empire, leading to the long period of Ottoman rule.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev:  [For] 500 years we didn't exist like a country. We were not existing as a country, only as a nation. And after this war, Bulgaria was again on the map of Europe after 500 years.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>By the 19th century, Bulgarian nationalism started to take hold, culminating in the April Uprising in 1876. Bulgrians rebelled in towns and cities across the territory against the Ottomans. The Ottoman Empire's response to the insurrection — a violent suppression by massacring civilians — led to an outpouring of public support for the Bulgarian cause.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev:  Koprivshtitsa and Panagyurishte, those are the main places for the uprising. This is actually the punishment for the Bulgarian people because they made the uprising. 30,000 innocent people were killed this was a big news around the world.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The coverage of the Ottoman's suppression was one of the factors that led the Russian Empire to declare war on the Ottoman Empire. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: And one year after the rebellion on 24th of April in 1877, Alexander II, the Russian emperor, he declared the war. And this is the beginning of maybe [the] 10th, 12th war between the Russian and Ottoman Empire, but in our history, in Bulgarian history, it stayed as a war for liberation.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>All of this context is briefly presented in the first gallery of the Pleven Panorama — as visitors walk up the stairs to the main attraction: the Panorama itself.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: And this is the main part of the museum actually. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Wow. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: So this part of the museum, it's actually the unique part. The name of the museum is because of this part here: Panorama. The name starts in Greek. It means, looking around yourself and the idea is that when you go in a museum like this, you can see actually the real place.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The Panorama is huge: one unbroken cylinder of painted canvas wrapping all the way around the room.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: It was hand- made. This is on canvas. It's one big piece. It's 115 meters long and it's 15 meters high. 15 meters here in Bulgaria are like four floors of a building. 13 painters did everything here in four months.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Everything in the room — the lights, the atmosphere creates the illusion that you're standing at this location in the afternoon of September 11th, 1877. It's as if the canvas is a window — the mountains in the distance, the rolling hills in the foreground are all exactly what you would see if there were actual windows in the building. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: And the idea of this part here, or the museum is  actually to show you the fight for the place that you're sitting right now. We will go on the roof of the museum: this is the view. This is not a place somewhere around the city. This is exactly the place we are right now.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The focus on the exact location mirrors Pleven's geographic destiny — this was the only place for Russian troops and their Romainain allies to enter the territory because their access to the Black Sea was blocked due to the Crimean War. The trade routes and the paths over the mountains were such that whoever controlled Pleven could control access to southern Bulgaria and Istanbul.
So this is where the Ottoman Empire tried to stall the invaders' progress. And it almost worked.
September 11th, 1877 was the third attack on the Ottoman defensive positions. On the canvas, Russian troops — under the command of General Skobelev— stream towards you in two main divisions, with guns and bayonets. A third division of Romaian troops capture a nearby position.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: The whole park here is by the name of the person that you can see over there on the white horse. So this is General Skobelev, he was in charge of the soldiers here. And from here he wanted help to go and liberate the city.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>We, the museum visitors, are put in the position of the defenders, the Ottoman soldiers, surrendered by two battlefields.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: The only successful fight at this day is the fight here for the place of the museum. And this is why we are here. So 13,000 soldiers came from the green hills that you can see over there that were crossing the Valley. They separated on two and they attacked at the same time. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Looking north, you can see the city of Pleven as it would have looked in 1877, one of the largest cities in Bulgaria at the time. </p>

<p>The battle resulted in so many casualties that the attackers switched tactics, and brought in General Totleben. Totleben decided to conduct a siege of the city of Pleven, still under Ottoman control. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: The idea of Totleben was very different. So he didn't rely on soldiers to fight for the place. As you can see here. His idea is actually to use the place. You can see that the city is in the Valley. It's very easy to surround the place so that nothing goes in and nothing goes out.  For 45 days, no food, no water, the water mills that were in the city, they were not working. The soldiers, they started to die from hunger, from diseases. Actually the people of Pleven started to actually die from hunger and diseases. They are telling that the city was like tomb.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The siege was successful in forcing the Ottoman soldiers to break out of the city: after another battle, the Ottomans surrendered on December 10, 1877. Bulgaria was finally back on the map of Europe.
The Pleven Panorama museum opened exactly 100 years later, on December 10th, 1977. 100 years is a long time, and Bulgaria looked very different. In 1977 Bulgaria was a satellite state of the USSR, operating under a communist regime. I asked Stoev if the political environment — and the story of Russian armies contributing to Bulgarian liberation — was one of the reasons for creating the panorama.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: Our museum was made from volunteers and from donations and it's not part of any political things, we were just representing the fights that actually liberated Bulgaria. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>And so that's different than something like Buzludzha?  </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: Yeah, yeah that's made from, for the government and from the government and it was something different as an idea.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Buzludzha — the concrete flying saucer monument that we covered on episodes 47 and 54 of Museum Archipelago — comes to mind because it was built only a few years later in 1981, and it has a similar feel: an imposing, disk-shaped structure of pressed concrete with a vertical column or two. But the comparison ends there. While Buzludzha was constructed to make the communist party look futuristic, the architecture of the Pleven Panorama itself is etched with the story of the siege and the battles of the past.</p>

<blockquote><p>
Bogomil Stoev: This building was built to be the museum. It was not something that already existed and they used. This vision of the building here is something that was part of the history of the city. How?  You saw the spikes, they represent the two battlefields. You can see the structure that is on the rings.The first three rings that are the upper part of the museum. Every ring represents one attempt to liberate the city. And then the siege is the big ring that's down in the museum. So this is the idea. When you see the museum to see the three attempts, then the siege and the two battlefields.</p>
</blockquote>
  
    
    <p>The shape of the building supports the massive panorama inside.
  1977 was long after the peak in popularity of European panorama painting or cycloramas, as they tend to be called in North America. They were a way to create an immersive environment by hand — an early example of virtual reality. The landscapes and the battles they portrayed — almost always in custom built-buildings — presented spectacle without words, and like modern immersive experiences, each little detail helped complete the illusion. 
  The Pleven Panorama learned from the panoramas before it. The studio that built it had experience with other panoramas. They knew the color temperature the lights had to use to make it feel like sunshine. They knew how sensitive the canvas is to heat and humidity, so they built the museum so that only 30 people would be in the room at any one time, for a maximum of 10 minutes — but with two staircases leading to other galleries, the visitor flow could be continuous. 
  The surface in front of the panorama canvas, but beyond the viewing platform, is littered with artifacts — cannons, makeshift camps, broken wagon wheels. 
  It's all positioned to create the illusion that the scene continues into the painted canvas. </p>
  
<blockquote><p>
Bogomil Stoev: Everything that you can see, the uniforms, all the weapons. They are actually real, they were not made, they're found here and they're real. And they were used in the war.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Of the approximately 100 panoramas in the world, the Pleven Panorama is one of only 19 extent examples in the classical style. </p>

<blockquote><p>
  Bogomil Stoev: This is the old way how you make a museum like this, you make a painting, that's handmade.  It's on canvas. It's with oil painting. And it was made here on the place of the museum. The modern panoramas they can be prints or even they can be all digital, where you have even sound, you'll have some kind of lightning, even a smell.  It can be full experience for the visitor. So this is not a modern type of museum. </p></blockquote>
    
<p>It's as if lot of things came together perfectly to create this panorama — the innovation was doing the older-style panorama correctly, with enough resources, and with the technology to protect the canvas. In a city teaming with nearly 200 monuments to the events of 1877, the Pleven Panorama has become the most enduring symbol of the city and the decisive battle.</p>
  <blockquote>
  <p>Bogomil Stoev: And every place is a symbol for something, every city in Bulgaria. But when you tell someone Pleven, they think about this, they think about the war, liberation of Bulgaria and the Panorama. </p>
</blockquote>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Vitosha Mountain, the southern border of Sofia, Bulgaria, is home to about 15 brown bears and one bear museum. According to Dr. Nikola Doykin, fauna expert at the Vitosha Nature Park Directorate, the bear population is stable—that is if humans stay away and protect their habitat. To Doykin and his team, teaching children about the bears is the best way forward, and the Vitosha Bear Museum does just that.

Founded in 2002 by repurposing an abandoned mountain shelter for the Vitosha mountain rangers, the Vitosha Bear Museum provides “useful tips on how to meet a bear.” It’s also sparse: the entire gallery is a single room, and the gallery lighting is powered by a car battery.

In this episode recorded at the museum, Dr. Nikola Doykin describes why the location is so useful for eco education, how groups of schoolchildren react to exhibits, and what the museum plans to do when it installs solar panels.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Vitosha Mountain, the southern border of Sofia, Bulgaria, is home to about 15 brown bears and one bear museum. According to Dr. Nikola Doykin, fauna expert at the Vitosha Nature Park Directorate, the bear population is stable—if humans stay away and protect their habitat. To Doykin and his team, teaching children about the bears is the best way forward, and the Vitosha Bear Museum does just that.
Founded in 2002 by repurposing an abandoned mountain shelter for the Vitosha mountain rangers, the Vitosha Bear Museum provides “useful tips on how to meet a bear.” It’s also sparse: the entire gallery is a single room, and the gallery lighting is powered by a car battery.
In this episode recorded at the museum, Dr. Nikola Doykin describes why the location is so useful for eco education, how groups of schoolchildren react to exhibits, and what the museum plans to do when it installs solar panels.
Topics and Notes
00:00 Intro
00:15 Vitosha mountain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitosha)
00:50 The Viosha Bear Museum (http://park-vitosha.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/spisanie-ENG_July-2012.pdf)
01:05 Dr. Nikola Doykin (https://www.nature-experience-bulgaria.com/nature-tour-guides/nikola-doykin-vitosha-nature-park-tour-guide/) 
02:10 The Location of the Museum (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Музей+на+мечката/@42.636078,23.2115471,14z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xa27af03db6067ea9!8m2!3d42.636078!4d23.2251191)
04:00 "Useful Tips On How To Meet A Bear" (https://www.novinite.com/articles/204909/Vitosha+Nature+Park%3A+The+Bear+Museum+and+The+Museum+of+Owls+Open+for+Visitors)
04:35 Bear Markings in the Museum
06:40 Ep. 6 Muzeiko (https://www.museumarchipelago.com/6)
06:50 Ep. 46 Vessela Gercheva Directs Playful Exhibits at Bulgaria’s First Children’s Museum (https://www.museumarchipelago.com/46) 
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        &lt;p&gt;Towering over the Bulgarian capital of Sofia is Vitosha mountain. Connected to the city by several public buses, residents like me love hiking the numerous mountain trails to get away from the hustle and bustle.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[Hiking Sounds]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And it was on one of these solitary hikes that I first came across The Vitosha Bear Museum. At first I didn’t quite know what I was looking at: a cute little hut halfway up the mountain with a locked door and boarded up windows.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the sign said Bear Museum in Bulgarian, and also that the museum was closed because it was “hibernating” for the winter. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So I sent some emails and that’s how, a few days later, I met Dr. Nikola Doykin at the museum.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;добър ден! (Good day!)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: добър ден! (Good day!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin is a Fauna expert at the Vitosha Nature Park Directorate, the organization that runs the museum. And he also had a key to open the museum door, which he wasn’t sure would work because it had been a month since he last used it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[Key Unlocking Sounds] &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: “And as you see, our museum is how to say, very simple.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The museum is as small on the inside as it looks on the outside. There’s no electric connection at the museum -- the LED lights that illuminate the gallery are powered by a car battery that Doykin switched on when we entered. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The rustic appearance is a carryover from the building’s first purpose: a mountain shelter for the Vitosha mountain rangers. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: And this was the place that they are staying during the night. And after that, it was abandoned, totally. And one guy had the idea to make this a place where we can show the bears, and where they can live, and the whole idea of the bears in the forest.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The abandoned shelter was turned into the Vitosha Bear Museum in 2002. For Doykin, this is the perfect setting for the museum -- because what’s outside is just as important as what’s inside. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: it will be easy for us if this kind of a museum was in a city. But we cut the line if we are in the city, but not in the forest because after that we can go out in the forest and show something else to the children. And mostly we have a little bit of a different education with the children and we start from here after that, we go out in the field and they can feel everything.&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: the idea is to put especially the children, the new generation, to put them in a real feelings to smell the forest, to feel the wind. The whole idea of the eco education, forestry education to take out the children from the cities and to show them real nature and how they can walk around and even to have fun in the forest, not only in the cities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The forests and mountains of Bulgaria represent a part of the national ethos, and so do the brown bears that live there. As the number of bears in the country declined, so too has the cultural pervasiveness of bears as fearsome carnivorous predators. Today, there’s an increased focus on conservation and even a sense of pride about Bulgaria’s remaining bears. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: We can say something about 10 to 15  bears that are left in Vitosha mountain, but mostly on the south part of the mountain.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;According to Doykin, DNA testing has indicated that there’s enough genetic diversity in this population of bears to reproduce and ensure their continued survival on Vitosha mountain -- that is if humans stay away and protect their habitat. To Doykin and his team, teaching children about the bears is the best way forward. As a local news article about the museum put it, “useful tips on how to meet a bear are given at the Vitosha Bear Museum”. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: And mostly what to do, not to meet the bear. And if we meet it, find it somehow, what to do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the corner of the room, there’s a tree taken from the forest which has markings from a bear. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: What they do to mark their territory,  the different types of markings. And also, one tree that is for real marked, from a bear, here with his teeth and here with his claws.We can show to the children what, what to look for. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The tree in the sparse interior makes it easy to connect visitors to what’s going on outside the four walls.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: After we show them how the bears mark their territory, to start to look around, to see if some of the trees are marked, And then we present to the children that same information. Where it can live, where we can find it, to take care of the animals, not to kill them, we make some programs and speak to the childrens.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On interpretive panels, visitors will also find information about the evolution and geographic distribution of different types of bears. These cover not just the brown bear -- the only type of bear found in Europe in Bulgaria, but also black bears in the Americas and in Asia, and polar bears. A glass case displays skulls from all of these bears. There’s even a bit of space in the basement where visitors can go inside a fake bear cave and see statues of a brown bear and her cub. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: In here, the main idea was to be dark, because in a cave, there is no lights. We had no real bears, but only those. And the small bear in the cave, that's his mom take care of him. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The cave is the perfect example of the museum working with what it has -- in this case a dark, low-ceilinged basement that doesn’t require electricity, and choosing the interpretive materials carefully -- in this case a simple statue is quite effective. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In many ways, the museum stands apart from the Muzeiko Children’s museum in Sofia, which we’ve featured in episodes 6 and and 46 of this show. That museum: the first children’s museum in the Balkans, features a huge number of computerized interactives centered around the concept of playful learning, which was not encouraged -- to say the least -- when Bulgaria was a Communist country. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But The Vitosha Bear Museum also breaks the mold of rote memorization and statistics overload that used to define Bulgaria’s education system and is still present at many of Bulgaria’s museums. But instead of computerized interactives, the museum finds playful learning in the feeling of a sparse ranger’s hut.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And next season, the museum will add electricity with a solar panel system. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: Next year, already we got contract with company to make a solar system with solar panels. We will have electricity and then we will have more things to do. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With electricity installed, Doykin and his team hope to increase the number and interactivity of the exhibits.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: For me, it's not bad to have this kind of nature of feeling of wood, really to touch the bear or to smell the leaves. And also you can have some interactive games. You can make some 3d, and mentioned to see how the bear walking around.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But Doykin -- who would spend all his time in the mountains if he could -- still considers the real museum to be on the outside. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Dr. Nikola Doykin: We have both museums: the biggest and the smallest. And it's good to have both. &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Vitosha Mountain, the southern border of Sofia, Bulgaria, is home to about 15 brown bears and one bear museum. According to Dr. Nikola Doykin, fauna expert at the Vitosha Nature Park Directorate, the bear population is stable—if humans stay away and protect their habitat. To Doykin and his team, teaching children about the bears is the best way forward, and the Vitosha Bear Museum does just that.</p>

<p>Founded in 2002 by repurposing an abandoned mountain shelter for the Vitosha mountain rangers, the Vitosha Bear Museum provides “useful tips on how to meet a bear.” It’s also sparse: the entire gallery is a single room, and the gallery lighting is powered by a car battery.</p>

<p>In this episode recorded at the museum, Dr. Nikola Doykin describes why the location is so useful for eco education, how groups of schoolchildren react to exhibits, and what the museum plans to do when it installs solar panels.</p>

<h3>Topics and Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>00:00 Intro</li>
<li>00:15 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitosha" rel="nofollow">Vitosha mountain</a></li>
<li>00:50 <a href="http://park-vitosha.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/spisanie-ENG_July-2012.pdf" rel="nofollow">The Viosha Bear Museum</a></li>
<li>01:05 <a href="https://www.nature-experience-bulgaria.com/nature-tour-guides/nikola-doykin-vitosha-nature-park-tour-guide/" rel="nofollow">Dr. Nikola Doykin</a> </li>
<li>02:10 <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/place/%D0%9C%D1%83%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%B9+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/@42.636078,23.2115471,14z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xa27af03db6067ea9!8m2!3d42.636078!4d23.2251191" rel="nofollow">The Location of the Museum</a></li>
<li>04:00 <a href="https://www.novinite.com/articles/204909/Vitosha+Nature+Park%3A+The+Bear+Museum+and+The+Museum+of+Owls+Open+for+Visitors" rel="nofollow">&quot;Useful Tips On How To Meet A Bear&quot;</a></li>
<li>04:35 Bear Markings in the Museum</li>
<li>06:40 <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/6" rel="nofollow">Ep. 6 Muzeiko</a></li>
<li>06:50 <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/46" rel="nofollow">Ep. 46 Vessela Gercheva Directs Playful Exhibits at Bulgaria’s First Children’s Museum</a> </li>
<li>08:30 <a href="https://www.patreon.com/museumarchipelago" rel="nofollow">Outro | Join Club Archipelago 🏖️</a></li>
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        <p>Towering over the Bulgarian capital of Sofia is Vitosha mountain. Connected to the city by several public buses, residents like me love hiking the numerous mountain trails to get away from the hustle and bustle.</p>

<p>[Hiking Sounds]</p>

<p>And it was on one of these solitary hikes that I first came across The Vitosha Bear Museum. At first I didn’t quite know what I was looking at: a cute little hut halfway up the mountain with a locked door and boarded up windows.</p>

<p>But the sign said Bear Museum in Bulgarian, and also that the museum was closed because it was “hibernating” for the winter. </p>

<p>So I sent some emails and that’s how, a few days later, I met Dr. Nikola Doykin at the museum.</p>

<p>добър ден! (Good day!)</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: добър ден! (Good day!)</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Dr. Nikola Doykin is a Fauna expert at the Vitosha Nature Park Directorate, the organization that runs the museum. And he also had a key to open the museum door, which he wasn’t sure would work because it had been a month since he last used it.</p>

<p>[Key Unlocking Sounds] </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: “And as you see, our museum is how to say, very simple.”</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The museum is as small on the inside as it looks on the outside. There’s no electric connection at the museum -- the LED lights that illuminate the gallery are powered by a car battery that Doykin switched on when we entered. </p>

<p>The rustic appearance is a carryover from the building’s first purpose: a mountain shelter for the Vitosha mountain rangers. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: And this was the place that they are staying during the night. And after that, it was abandoned, totally. And one guy had the idea to make this a place where we can show the bears, and where they can live, and the whole idea of the bears in the forest.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The abandoned shelter was turned into the Vitosha Bear Museum in 2002. For Doykin, this is the perfect setting for the museum -- because what’s outside is just as important as what’s inside. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: it will be easy for us if this kind of a museum was in a city. But we cut the line if we are in the city, but not in the forest because after that we can go out in the forest and show something else to the children. And mostly we have a little bit of a different education with the children and we start from here after that, we go out in the field and they can feel everything.</p>
  
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: the idea is to put especially the children, the new generation, to put them in a real feelings to smell the forest, to feel the wind. The whole idea of the eco education, forestry education to take out the children from the cities and to show them real nature and how they can walk around and even to have fun in the forest, not only in the cities.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The forests and mountains of Bulgaria represent a part of the national ethos, and so do the brown bears that live there. As the number of bears in the country declined, so too has the cultural pervasiveness of bears as fearsome carnivorous predators. Today, there’s an increased focus on conservation and even a sense of pride about Bulgaria’s remaining bears. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: We can say something about 10 to 15  bears that are left in Vitosha mountain, but mostly on the south part of the mountain.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>According to Doykin, DNA testing has indicated that there’s enough genetic diversity in this population of bears to reproduce and ensure their continued survival on Vitosha mountain -- that is if humans stay away and protect their habitat. To Doykin and his team, teaching children about the bears is the best way forward. As a local news article about the museum put it, “useful tips on how to meet a bear are given at the Vitosha Bear Museum”. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: And mostly what to do, not to meet the bear. And if we meet it, find it somehow, what to do.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>In the corner of the room, there’s a tree taken from the forest which has markings from a bear. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: What they do to mark their territory,  the different types of markings. And also, one tree that is for real marked, from a bear, here with his teeth and here with his claws.We can show to the children what, what to look for. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>The tree in the sparse interior makes it easy to connect visitors to what’s going on outside the four walls.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: After we show them how the bears mark their territory, to start to look around, to see if some of the trees are marked, And then we present to the children that same information. Where it can live, where we can find it, to take care of the animals, not to kill them, we make some programs and speak to the childrens.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>On interpretive panels, visitors will also find information about the evolution and geographic distribution of different types of bears. These cover not just the brown bear -- the only type of bear found in Europe in Bulgaria, but also black bears in the Americas and in Asia, and polar bears. A glass case displays skulls from all of these bears. There’s even a bit of space in the basement where visitors can go inside a fake bear cave and see statues of a brown bear and her cub. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: In here, the main idea was to be dark, because in a cave, there is no lights. We had no real bears, but only those. And the small bear in the cave, that's his mom take care of him. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>The cave is the perfect example of the museum working with what it has -- in this case a dark, low-ceilinged basement that doesn’t require electricity, and choosing the interpretive materials carefully -- in this case a simple statue is quite effective. </p>

<p>In many ways, the museum stands apart from the Muzeiko Children’s museum in Sofia, which we’ve featured in episodes 6 and and 46 of this show. That museum: the first children’s museum in the Balkans, features a huge number of computerized interactives centered around the concept of playful learning, which was not encouraged -- to say the least -- when Bulgaria was a Communist country. </p>

<p>But The Vitosha Bear Museum also breaks the mold of rote memorization and statistics overload that used to define Bulgaria’s education system and is still present at many of Bulgaria’s museums. But instead of computerized interactives, the museum finds playful learning in the feeling of a sparse ranger’s hut.</p>

<p>And next season, the museum will add electricity with a solar panel system. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: Next year, already we got contract with company to make a solar system with solar panels. We will have electricity and then we will have more things to do. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>With electricity installed, Doykin and his team hope to increase the number and interactivity of the exhibits.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: For me, it's not bad to have this kind of nature of feeling of wood, really to touch the bear or to smell the leaves. And also you can have some interactive games. You can make some 3d, and mentioned to see how the bear walking around.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>But Doykin -- who would spend all his time in the mountains if he could -- still considers the real museum to be on the outside. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: We have both museums: the biggest and the smallest. And it's good to have both. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>This has been Museum Archipelago.</p>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Vitosha Mountain, the southern border of Sofia, Bulgaria, is home to about 15 brown bears and one bear museum. According to Dr. Nikola Doykin, fauna expert at the Vitosha Nature Park Directorate, the bear population is stable—if humans stay away and protect their habitat. To Doykin and his team, teaching children about the bears is the best way forward, and the Vitosha Bear Museum does just that.</p>

<p>Founded in 2002 by repurposing an abandoned mountain shelter for the Vitosha mountain rangers, the Vitosha Bear Museum provides “useful tips on how to meet a bear.” It’s also sparse: the entire gallery is a single room, and the gallery lighting is powered by a car battery.</p>

<p>In this episode recorded at the museum, Dr. Nikola Doykin describes why the location is so useful for eco education, how groups of schoolchildren react to exhibits, and what the museum plans to do when it installs solar panels.</p>

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<li>00:15 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitosha" rel="nofollow">Vitosha mountain</a></li>
<li>00:50 <a href="http://park-vitosha.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/spisanie-ENG_July-2012.pdf" rel="nofollow">The Viosha Bear Museum</a></li>
<li>01:05 <a href="https://www.nature-experience-bulgaria.com/nature-tour-guides/nikola-doykin-vitosha-nature-park-tour-guide/" rel="nofollow">Dr. Nikola Doykin</a> </li>
<li>02:10 <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/place/%D0%9C%D1%83%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%B9+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0/@42.636078,23.2115471,14z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xa27af03db6067ea9!8m2!3d42.636078!4d23.2251191" rel="nofollow">The Location of the Museum</a></li>
<li>04:00 <a href="https://www.novinite.com/articles/204909/Vitosha+Nature+Park%3A+The+Bear+Museum+and+The+Museum+of+Owls+Open+for+Visitors" rel="nofollow">&quot;Useful Tips On How To Meet A Bear&quot;</a></li>
<li>04:35 Bear Markings in the Museum</li>
<li>06:40 <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/6" rel="nofollow">Ep. 6 Muzeiko</a></li>
<li>06:50 <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/46" rel="nofollow">Ep. 46 Vessela Gercheva Directs Playful Exhibits at Bulgaria’s First Children’s Museum</a> </li>
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        <p>Towering over the Bulgarian capital of Sofia is Vitosha mountain. Connected to the city by several public buses, residents like me love hiking the numerous mountain trails to get away from the hustle and bustle.</p>

<p>[Hiking Sounds]</p>

<p>And it was on one of these solitary hikes that I first came across The Vitosha Bear Museum. At first I didn’t quite know what I was looking at: a cute little hut halfway up the mountain with a locked door and boarded up windows.</p>

<p>But the sign said Bear Museum in Bulgarian, and also that the museum was closed because it was “hibernating” for the winter. </p>

<p>So I sent some emails and that’s how, a few days later, I met Dr. Nikola Doykin at the museum.</p>

<p>добър ден! (Good day!)</p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: добър ден! (Good day!)</p>
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<p>Dr. Nikola Doykin is a Fauna expert at the Vitosha Nature Park Directorate, the organization that runs the museum. And he also had a key to open the museum door, which he wasn’t sure would work because it had been a month since he last used it.</p>

<p>[Key Unlocking Sounds] </p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: “And as you see, our museum is how to say, very simple.”</p>
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<p>The museum is as small on the inside as it looks on the outside. There’s no electric connection at the museum -- the LED lights that illuminate the gallery are powered by a car battery that Doykin switched on when we entered. </p>

<p>The rustic appearance is a carryover from the building’s first purpose: a mountain shelter for the Vitosha mountain rangers. </p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: And this was the place that they are staying during the night. And after that, it was abandoned, totally. And one guy had the idea to make this a place where we can show the bears, and where they can live, and the whole idea of the bears in the forest.</p>
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<p>The abandoned shelter was turned into the Vitosha Bear Museum in 2002. For Doykin, this is the perfect setting for the museum -- because what’s outside is just as important as what’s inside. </p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: it will be easy for us if this kind of a museum was in a city. But we cut the line if we are in the city, but not in the forest because after that we can go out in the forest and show something else to the children. And mostly we have a little bit of a different education with the children and we start from here after that, we go out in the field and they can feel everything.</p>
  
  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: the idea is to put especially the children, the new generation, to put them in a real feelings to smell the forest, to feel the wind. The whole idea of the eco education, forestry education to take out the children from the cities and to show them real nature and how they can walk around and even to have fun in the forest, not only in the cities.</p>
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<p>The forests and mountains of Bulgaria represent a part of the national ethos, and so do the brown bears that live there. As the number of bears in the country declined, so too has the cultural pervasiveness of bears as fearsome carnivorous predators. Today, there’s an increased focus on conservation and even a sense of pride about Bulgaria’s remaining bears. </p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: We can say something about 10 to 15  bears that are left in Vitosha mountain, but mostly on the south part of the mountain.</p>
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<p>According to Doykin, DNA testing has indicated that there’s enough genetic diversity in this population of bears to reproduce and ensure their continued survival on Vitosha mountain -- that is if humans stay away and protect their habitat. To Doykin and his team, teaching children about the bears is the best way forward. As a local news article about the museum put it, “useful tips on how to meet a bear are given at the Vitosha Bear Museum”. </p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: And mostly what to do, not to meet the bear. And if we meet it, find it somehow, what to do.</p>
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<p>In the corner of the room, there’s a tree taken from the forest which has markings from a bear. </p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: What they do to mark their territory,  the different types of markings. And also, one tree that is for real marked, from a bear, here with his teeth and here with his claws.We can show to the children what, what to look for. </p>
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<p>The tree in the sparse interior makes it easy to connect visitors to what’s going on outside the four walls.</p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: After we show them how the bears mark their territory, to start to look around, to see if some of the trees are marked, And then we present to the children that same information. Where it can live, where we can find it, to take care of the animals, not to kill them, we make some programs and speak to the childrens.</p>
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<p>On interpretive panels, visitors will also find information about the evolution and geographic distribution of different types of bears. These cover not just the brown bear -- the only type of bear found in Europe in Bulgaria, but also black bears in the Americas and in Asia, and polar bears. A glass case displays skulls from all of these bears. There’s even a bit of space in the basement where visitors can go inside a fake bear cave and see statues of a brown bear and her cub. </p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: In here, the main idea was to be dark, because in a cave, there is no lights. We had no real bears, but only those. And the small bear in the cave, that's his mom take care of him. </p>
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<p>The cave is the perfect example of the museum working with what it has -- in this case a dark, low-ceilinged basement that doesn’t require electricity, and choosing the interpretive materials carefully -- in this case a simple statue is quite effective. </p>

<p>In many ways, the museum stands apart from the Muzeiko Children’s museum in Sofia, which we’ve featured in episodes 6 and and 46 of this show. That museum: the first children’s museum in the Balkans, features a huge number of computerized interactives centered around the concept of playful learning, which was not encouraged -- to say the least -- when Bulgaria was a Communist country. </p>

<p>But The Vitosha Bear Museum also breaks the mold of rote memorization and statistics overload that used to define Bulgaria’s education system and is still present at many of Bulgaria’s museums. But instead of computerized interactives, the museum finds playful learning in the feeling of a sparse ranger’s hut.</p>

<p>And next season, the museum will add electricity with a solar panel system. </p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: Next year, already we got contract with company to make a solar system with solar panels. We will have electricity and then we will have more things to do. </p>
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<p>With electricity installed, Doykin and his team hope to increase the number and interactivity of the exhibits.</p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: For me, it's not bad to have this kind of nature of feeling of wood, really to touch the bear or to smell the leaves. And also you can have some interactive games. You can make some 3d, and mentioned to see how the bear walking around.</p>
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<p>But Doykin -- who would spend all his time in the mountains if he could -- still considers the real museum to be on the outside. </p>

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  <p>Dr. Nikola Doykin: We have both museums: the biggest and the smallest. And it's good to have both. </p>
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  <itunes:subtitle>To the extent that there was a Communist capital of humor in the last half of the 20th century, it was Gabrovo, Bulgaria. Situated in a valley of the Balkan mountains, the city prides itself on its unique brand of self-effacing humor. In 1972, the Museum House of Humor and Satire opened here, and the city celebrated political humor with people in Soviet block countries and even some invited Western guests.

Today, three decades after the collapse of Communism, the Museum House of Humor and Satire remains one of the region's most important cultural landmarks. The museum has had to reinvent itself to interpret not only a democratic Bulgaria, but a the global, meme-driven, and internet-forged culture most visitors live in.

 I went to Gabrovo to visit museum director Margarita Dorovska, who describes how the museum's strengths in its early years—like knowing how to present political humor without arousing the interest of the authorities—inform how the museum thinks of its role in the world today.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>To the extent that there was a Communist capital of humor in the last half of the 20th century, it was Gabrovo, Bulgaria. Situated in a valley of the Balkan mountains, the city prides itself on its unique brand of self-effacing humor. In 1972, the Museum House of Humor and Satire opened here, and the city celebrated political humor with people in Soviet block countries and even some invited Western guests.
Today, three decades after the collapse of Communism, the Museum House of Humor and Satire remains one of the region's most important cultural landmarks. The museum has had to reinvent itself to interpret not only a democratic Bulgaria, but a the global, meme-driven, and internet-forged culture most visitors live in.
 I went to Gabrovo to visit museum director Margarita Dorovska, who describes how the museum's strengths in its early years—like knowing how to present political humor without arousing the interest of the authorities—inform how the museum thinks of its role in the world today.
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00:00 Intro
00:15 Gabrovo, Bulgaria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrovo)
01:07 Margarita Dorovska
01:44 How the Museum House of Humour and Satire Started
02:40 How to Run A Humor Museum Under Communism 
04:05 1st International Biennial of Humour and Satire in the Arts in Gabrovo
05:55 The Museum in 1989
06:40 After the Collapse
07:00 Humor is Not Universal
07:30 Media Freedom in Bulgaria
07:55 Addressing Civic Space in Bulgaria: Garden Town (https://www.humorhouse.bg/engl/exhibitions/temporary.html)
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        &lt;p&gt;In the middle of Bulgaria, not far from the crumbling Buzludzha monument, lays  the town of Gabrovo. Situated in a valley of the Balkan mountains, the city prides itself on its unique brand of humor. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Many local jokes jokes are self deprecating about the Gabrovoian  obsession with frugality and entrepreneurship, and center around the comical lengths that townspeople go to save money. The mascot of the city is a black cat without a tail. It is said that Gabrovoians prefer cats without tails because they can shut the door faster when they let the cat out, saving on their hearting bills.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: That's actually typical for the Balkan mountains. This used to be the kind of humor that would exist in the region around Gabrovo, not just Gabrovo itself. But Gabrovoians were smart enough to brand it as theirs. That's the entrepreneurial side of things, of course. [laughter].&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;This is Margarita Dorovska.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: Hello! My name is Margarita Dorovska and I'm a curator by profession and I'm the Director of the Museum of Humour and Satire in Gabrovo, Bulgaria.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The museum was founded in 1972. Before the Wall fell, this location was known as the Communist capital of humour, extending its reach across Eastern Block countries, and also to certain circles in the West. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I visited Gabrovo because I wanted to find out how this political humor and satire museum could have started here during communist times, and how the museum is tackling the global, meme-driven culture of the world today. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: There are a couple of precursors that we have to go through to understand how the museum appeared. Two things. One is the Gabrovo humor jokes. So someone announced the completion in the newspaper, that the municipality is paying a certain amount for each joke that gets juried into a collection of Gabrovo jokes. They collected a lot of these jokes, made a book, and this book was an absolute bestseller. It was immediately translated of course in Russian, but also in different languages like French,  English, German and it started selling very very well. The other thing that happened was the the Gabrovo carnival: this was restarted in the 60s and it is typical for being a carnival with a lot of political humor and satire.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;And this is the crucial theme of the museum and why it was able to exist in an age of single-party rule. The people running the carnival, and later the museum, were experts at walking up to the line, without crossing it. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska When we speak of political satire, do not imagine the general secretary of the party being satirized. It was very clear to what level the satire can reach. So satire was an instrument in the hands of good communists to fight those who abused power, but to certain level.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So it extends up to maybe a local official, but never higher?&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: Exactly, exactly. It was very clear where the satire can reach. As to the Gabrovo jokes, they’re not political, they deal with economy, with the mentality of the local people.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Combining the two: or maybe more realistically, using the Gabrovo jokes as a Trojan Horse to present more political satire, was what led some entrepreneurial Gabrovians to open a museum.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: [In] Typical Gabrovo style, they didn't build a new building, but they refurbished an old leather factory. So the building we are in is the fromer leather factory. First it was cheaper, second it could go slightly unnoticed because you don't need the same kind of permissions to build and to refurbished.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;And if you wanted your out-of-the-mainstream project to succeed in communist Bulgaria, asking for permission was not the way to go.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The museum started to put on biennials, festivals held every two years which featured invited Western guests. The first was in 1973. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: They immediately started with the biennials, the first edition of the biennials was dedicated to cartoons and small satirical sculpture. It was international and they brought in amazing names. How could that exist? If you think of that time, most cartoonists in the western world would be critical, would be leftists. So they would be very welcome in Bulgaria. And that would indeed be a gathering place for East and West. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;But there was a problem with that first biennial: the jury selected, for first prize, a cartoonist from Turkey, a country on the other side of the Iron Curtain. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: The director thought, "oh wow, what we did?" "What are you doing? How are you going to give a prize to a cartoonist from a NATO country?" And they started asking themselves, but we never asked for permission to start a biennial, to gather all of these people, that's going to be a huge problem, what are we going to do?” Then he thought, what am I going to do? The only thing he could do was go straight to the monster. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So the director went straight to the daughter of the general secretary and the Bulgarian dictator, Ludmilla Zhivkova, who would later become minister of culture. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: She was good enough to listen. She was smart to perceive good ideas and to support them. So, it worked. She came, she opened the biennial. And it all went on well. And they never gave the reward anymore to a cartoonist coming from a country that would be an issue. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The museum and the biennials kept growing, until communism collapsed in 1989.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: In 1989, they had more than 80 foreign guests, artists, juries coming for the biennial. So it was massive. After 1989 was the collapse indeed. At that time there were more than 100 people working in the House of Humor. Because if you think of all the different departments: cinema, literature, folklore, it was a big enterprise, with a lot of events, with amazing exhibitions. When I look at photos from the 1970s and 1980s, I'm absolutely astonished by the exhibition design you see. It's amazing, it's so well done. I don't think anywhere in Bulgaria it was so good.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;After the collapse, the museum's staff shrank to a skeleton crew. Dariskova joined the museum in 2016 and argued for a new direction for the museum's curation.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: As you can imagine, until 1989, my colleagues would have insisted that humor is universal. That all human beings all laugh. Humor is omnipresent and universal. The first fight that I had to have with the team when I came was to say, “I’m sorry but humor is not universal.” Humor is so culture based. It’s totally culture-based. Of course, it is safer to say that humor is universal and not to go into political humor. It’s safer. But then you don’t do your job. Our mission is to be very timely, to show things that are happening today. And if a humor and satire museum can’t do that, who else can do that?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;While a lot has improved over the past decade in Bulgaria, media freedom is declining. Most of the press has been purchased by oligarchs, and corruption and collusion between the media and politicians is widespread. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: You know there are issues with freedom of expression in Bulgaria. So at least a museum should be some sort of outlet. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The museum addresses the civic space in Bulgaria with a new temporary children’s exhibit called Garden Town. The charming subtitle is “where mischief has a happy end.” &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: We wanted to look at different examples or area of publicness, what’s public life, public debate, public media, public space and so on, and we really wanted to have this theme for children, so for the first time we are doing this children’s exhibition. It’s called Garden Town, and it’s a model of a town where the different neighborhoods address different issues, such as graffiti, you’re invited to draw, or voting, that’s the place where you go by yourself and it’s accidentally a toilet but it’s also a voting room, then we have some gorilla guarding, making bombs of seeds, etc. Finally, there’s the PensivePark where kids -- because they usually come in groups, they are invited to sit down and have a discussion and reach a decision. We give them some advice about how they can make a decision like tossing a coin, or concessions, or voting, or different options -- including anarchy! [laughter]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It’s really something to see how far the museum has come from starting within the communist system, to reinventing itself to remain relevant in ways that are crucially important to a modern Bulgarian audience. Dariskova admits that the next stage of reinventing -- interpreting humor on the internet, to an audience that lives online -- hasn’t happened yet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Margarita Dorovska: That’s the first big challenge I could think of when I learned that the museum was looking for a director. I came to the museum, I looked at it, I was real impressed, and then I thought how can I change this place? How can you make it really fun when all the fun you need is on your phone. You can just scroll for hours and never stop laughing, so what can a museum do about that? Are we supposed to show the same things? No! You don’t go to the museum to go look at something you could see on your phone. Internet certainly has changed humor a lot. This is an exhibition we’ve been planning but we are trying to find the right research team to prepare that, memes, all the different funny games. It is very interesting to see how internet has been changing humor and where we are at now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The way jokes developed in Gabrovo, where people told slightly different versions to each other -- and in the process carefully distilled the most sharable essence of the joke -- mirrors the way that memes are forged in online communities. Constantly morphing to get more attention.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe the best chance we have of interpreting communities online and off comes from a humor museum. Thre Gabrovo Museum of Humour and Satire, which has already morphed through 20 years of communism and 30 years of democracy, is a good place to start. Just close the door quickly when you let the cat out. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This has been Museum Archipelago. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Today, three decades after the collapse of Communism, the Museum House of Humor and Satire remains one of the region&#39;s most important cultural landmarks. The museum has had to reinvent itself to interpret not only a democratic Bulgaria, but a the global, meme-driven, and internet-forged culture most visitors live in.</p>

<p>I went to Gabrovo to visit museum director Margarita Dorovska, who describes how the museum&#39;s strengths in its early years—like knowing how to present political humor without arousing the interest of the authorities—inform how the museum thinks of its role in the world today.</p>

<h3>Topics and Links</h3>

<ul>
<li>00:00 Intro</li>
<li>00:15 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrovo" rel="nofollow">Gabrovo, Bulgaria</a></li>
<li>01:07 Margarita Dorovska</li>
<li>01:44 How the Museum House of Humour and Satire Started</li>
<li>02:40 How to Run A Humor Museum Under Communism </li>
<li>04:05 1st International Biennial of Humour and Satire in the Arts in Gabrovo</li>
<li>05:55 The Museum in 1989</li>
<li>06:40 After the Collapse</li>
<li>07:00 Humor is Not Universal</li>
<li>07:30 Media Freedom in Bulgaria</li>
<li>07:55 <a href="https://www.humorhouse.bg/engl/exhibitions/temporary.html" rel="nofollow">Addressing Civic Space in Bulgaria: Garden Town</a></li>
<li>09:09 The Museum and the Internet</li>
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        <p>In the middle of Bulgaria, not far from the crumbling Buzludzha monument, lays  the town of Gabrovo. Situated in a valley of the Balkan mountains, the city prides itself on its unique brand of humor. </p>

<p>Many local jokes jokes are self deprecating about the Gabrovoian  obsession with frugality and entrepreneurship, and center around the comical lengths that townspeople go to save money. The mascot of the city is a black cat without a tail. It is said that Gabrovoians prefer cats without tails because they can shut the door faster when they let the cat out, saving on their hearting bills.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: That's actually typical for the Balkan mountains. This used to be the kind of humor that would exist in the region around Gabrovo, not just Gabrovo itself. But Gabrovoians were smart enough to brand it as theirs. That's the entrepreneurial side of things, of course. [laughter].</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is Margarita Dorovska.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: Hello! My name is Margarita Dorovska and I'm a curator by profession and I'm the Director of the Museum of Humour and Satire in Gabrovo, Bulgaria.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The museum was founded in 1972. Before the Wall fell, this location was known as the Communist capital of humour, extending its reach across Eastern Block countries, and also to certain circles in the West. </p>

<p>I visited Gabrovo because I wanted to find out how this political humor and satire museum could have started here during communist times, and how the museum is tackling the global, meme-driven culture of the world today. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: There are a couple of precursors that we have to go through to understand how the museum appeared. Two things. One is the Gabrovo humor jokes. So someone announced the completion in the newspaper, that the municipality is paying a certain amount for each joke that gets juried into a collection of Gabrovo jokes. They collected a lot of these jokes, made a book, and this book was an absolute bestseller. It was immediately translated of course in Russian, but also in different languages like French,  English, German and it started selling very very well. The other thing that happened was the the Gabrovo carnival: this was restarted in the 60s and it is typical for being a carnival with a lot of political humor and satire.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>And this is the crucial theme of the museum and why it was able to exist in an age of single-party rule. The people running the carnival, and later the museum, were experts at walking up to the line, without crossing it. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska When we speak of political satire, do not imagine the general secretary of the party being satirized. It was very clear to what level the satire can reach. So satire was an instrument in the hands of good communists to fight those who abused power, but to certain level.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>So it extends up to maybe a local official, but never higher?</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: Exactly, exactly. It was very clear where the satire can reach. As to the Gabrovo jokes, they’re not political, they deal with economy, with the mentality of the local people.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Combining the two: or maybe more realistically, using the Gabrovo jokes as a Trojan Horse to present more political satire, was what led some entrepreneurial Gabrovians to open a museum.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: [In] Typical Gabrovo style, they didn't build a new building, but they refurbished an old leather factory. So the building we are in is the fromer leather factory. First it was cheaper, second it could go slightly unnoticed because you don't need the same kind of permissions to build and to refurbished.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>And if you wanted your out-of-the-mainstream project to succeed in communist Bulgaria, asking for permission was not the way to go.</p>

<p>The museum started to put on biennials, festivals held every two years which featured invited Western guests. The first was in 1973. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: They immediately started with the biennials, the first edition of the biennials was dedicated to cartoons and small satirical sculpture. It was international and they brought in amazing names. How could that exist? If you think of that time, most cartoonists in the western world would be critical, would be leftists. So they would be very welcome in Bulgaria. And that would indeed be a gathering place for East and West. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>But there was a problem with that first biennial: the jury selected, for first prize, a cartoonist from Turkey, a country on the other side of the Iron Curtain. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: The director thought, "oh wow, what we did?" "What are you doing? How are you going to give a prize to a cartoonist from a NATO country?" And they started asking themselves, but we never asked for permission to start a biennial, to gather all of these people, that's going to be a huge problem, what are we going to do?” Then he thought, what am I going to do? The only thing he could do was go straight to the monster. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>So the director went straight to the daughter of the general secretary and the Bulgarian dictator, Ludmilla Zhivkova, who would later become minister of culture. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: She was good enough to listen. She was smart to perceive good ideas and to support them. So, it worked. She came, she opened the biennial. And it all went on well. And they never gave the reward anymore to a cartoonist coming from a country that would be an issue. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>The museum and the biennials kept growing, until communism collapsed in 1989.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: In 1989, they had more than 80 foreign guests, artists, juries coming for the biennial. So it was massive. After 1989 was the collapse indeed. At that time there were more than 100 people working in the House of Humor. Because if you think of all the different departments: cinema, literature, folklore, it was a big enterprise, with a lot of events, with amazing exhibitions. When I look at photos from the 1970s and 1980s, I'm absolutely astonished by the exhibition design you see. It's amazing, it's so well done. I don't think anywhere in Bulgaria it was so good.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>After the collapse, the museum's staff shrank to a skeleton crew. Dariskova joined the museum in 2016 and argued for a new direction for the museum's curation.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: As you can imagine, until 1989, my colleagues would have insisted that humor is universal. That all human beings all laugh. Humor is omnipresent and universal. The first fight that I had to have with the team when I came was to say, “I’m sorry but humor is not universal.” Humor is so culture based. It’s totally culture-based. Of course, it is safer to say that humor is universal and not to go into political humor. It’s safer. But then you don’t do your job. Our mission is to be very timely, to show things that are happening today. And if a humor and satire museum can’t do that, who else can do that?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>While a lot has improved over the past decade in Bulgaria, media freedom is declining. Most of the press has been purchased by oligarchs, and corruption and collusion between the media and politicians is widespread. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: You know there are issues with freedom of expression in Bulgaria. So at least a museum should be some sort of outlet. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>The museum addresses the civic space in Bulgaria with a new temporary children’s exhibit called Garden Town. The charming subtitle is “where mischief has a happy end.” </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: We wanted to look at different examples or area of publicness, what’s public life, public debate, public media, public space and so on, and we really wanted to have this theme for children, so for the first time we are doing this children’s exhibition. It’s called Garden Town, and it’s a model of a town where the different neighborhoods address different issues, such as graffiti, you’re invited to draw, or voting, that’s the place where you go by yourself and it’s accidentally a toilet but it’s also a voting room, then we have some gorilla guarding, making bombs of seeds, etc. Finally, there’s the PensivePark where kids -- because they usually come in groups, they are invited to sit down and have a discussion and reach a decision. We give them some advice about how they can make a decision like tossing a coin, or concessions, or voting, or different options -- including anarchy! [laughter]</p>
</blockquote>

<p>It’s really something to see how far the museum has come from starting within the communist system, to reinventing itself to remain relevant in ways that are crucially important to a modern Bulgarian audience. Dariskova admits that the next stage of reinventing -- interpreting humor on the internet, to an audience that lives online -- hasn’t happened yet.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: That’s the first big challenge I could think of when I learned that the museum was looking for a director. I came to the museum, I looked at it, I was real impressed, and then I thought how can I change this place? How can you make it really fun when all the fun you need is on your phone. You can just scroll for hours and never stop laughing, so what can a museum do about that? Are we supposed to show the same things? No! You don’t go to the museum to go look at something you could see on your phone. Internet certainly has changed humor a lot. This is an exhibition we’ve been planning but we are trying to find the right research team to prepare that, memes, all the different funny games. It is very interesting to see how internet has been changing humor and where we are at now.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The way jokes developed in Gabrovo, where people told slightly different versions to each other -- and in the process carefully distilled the most sharable essence of the joke -- mirrors the way that memes are forged in online communities. Constantly morphing to get more attention.</p>

<p>Maybe the best chance we have of interpreting communities online and off comes from a humor museum. Thre Gabrovo Museum of Humour and Satire, which has already morphed through 20 years of communism and 30 years of democracy, is a good place to start. Just close the door quickly when you let the cat out. </p>

<p>This has been Museum Archipelago. </p>
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    <![CDATA[<p>To the extent that there was a Communist capital of humor in the last half of the 20th century, it was Gabrovo, Bulgaria. Situated in a valley of the Balkan mountains, the city prides itself on its unique brand of self-effacing humor. In 1972, the Museum House of Humor and Satire opened here, and the city celebrated political humor with people in Soviet block countries and even some invited Western guests.</p>

<p>Today, three decades after the collapse of Communism, the Museum House of Humor and Satire remains one of the region&#39;s most important cultural landmarks. The museum has had to reinvent itself to interpret not only a democratic Bulgaria, but a the global, meme-driven, and internet-forged culture most visitors live in.</p>

<p>I went to Gabrovo to visit museum director Margarita Dorovska, who describes how the museum&#39;s strengths in its early years—like knowing how to present political humor without arousing the interest of the authorities—inform how the museum thinks of its role in the world today.</p>

<h3>Topics and Links</h3>

<ul>
<li>00:00 Intro</li>
<li>00:15 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrovo" rel="nofollow">Gabrovo, Bulgaria</a></li>
<li>01:07 Margarita Dorovska</li>
<li>01:44 How the Museum House of Humour and Satire Started</li>
<li>02:40 How to Run A Humor Museum Under Communism </li>
<li>04:05 1st International Biennial of Humour and Satire in the Arts in Gabrovo</li>
<li>05:55 The Museum in 1989</li>
<li>06:40 After the Collapse</li>
<li>07:00 Humor is Not Universal</li>
<li>07:30 Media Freedom in Bulgaria</li>
<li>07:55 <a href="https://www.humorhouse.bg/engl/exhibitions/temporary.html" rel="nofollow">Addressing Civic Space in Bulgaria: Garden Town</a></li>
<li>09:09 The Museum and the Internet</li>
<li>11:00 <a href="https://www.patreon.com/museumarchipelago" rel="nofollow">Outro | Join Club Archipelago</a></li>
</ul>

<p><em>Museum Archipelago is a tiny show guiding you through the rocky landscape of museums. Subscribe to the podcast via <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/museum-archipelago/id1182755184" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubXVzZXVtYXJjaGlwZWxhZ28uY29tL3Jzcw==" rel="nofollow">Google Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1182755184/museum-archipelago" rel="nofollow">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5ImpDQJqEypxGNslnImXZE" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>, or even <a href="https://mailchi.mp/6aab38a7b159/museumgo" rel="nofollow">email</a> to never miss an episode.</em></p>

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        <p>In the middle of Bulgaria, not far from the crumbling Buzludzha monument, lays  the town of Gabrovo. Situated in a valley of the Balkan mountains, the city prides itself on its unique brand of humor. </p>

<p>Many local jokes jokes are self deprecating about the Gabrovoian  obsession with frugality and entrepreneurship, and center around the comical lengths that townspeople go to save money. The mascot of the city is a black cat without a tail. It is said that Gabrovoians prefer cats without tails because they can shut the door faster when they let the cat out, saving on their hearting bills.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: That's actually typical for the Balkan mountains. This used to be the kind of humor that would exist in the region around Gabrovo, not just Gabrovo itself. But Gabrovoians were smart enough to brand it as theirs. That's the entrepreneurial side of things, of course. [laughter].</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is Margarita Dorovska.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: Hello! My name is Margarita Dorovska and I'm a curator by profession and I'm the Director of the Museum of Humour and Satire in Gabrovo, Bulgaria.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The museum was founded in 1972. Before the Wall fell, this location was known as the Communist capital of humour, extending its reach across Eastern Block countries, and also to certain circles in the West. </p>

<p>I visited Gabrovo because I wanted to find out how this political humor and satire museum could have started here during communist times, and how the museum is tackling the global, meme-driven culture of the world today. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: There are a couple of precursors that we have to go through to understand how the museum appeared. Two things. One is the Gabrovo humor jokes. So someone announced the completion in the newspaper, that the municipality is paying a certain amount for each joke that gets juried into a collection of Gabrovo jokes. They collected a lot of these jokes, made a book, and this book was an absolute bestseller. It was immediately translated of course in Russian, but also in different languages like French,  English, German and it started selling very very well. The other thing that happened was the the Gabrovo carnival: this was restarted in the 60s and it is typical for being a carnival with a lot of political humor and satire.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>And this is the crucial theme of the museum and why it was able to exist in an age of single-party rule. The people running the carnival, and later the museum, were experts at walking up to the line, without crossing it. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska When we speak of political satire, do not imagine the general secretary of the party being satirized. It was very clear to what level the satire can reach. So satire was an instrument in the hands of good communists to fight those who abused power, but to certain level.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>So it extends up to maybe a local official, but never higher?</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: Exactly, exactly. It was very clear where the satire can reach. As to the Gabrovo jokes, they’re not political, they deal with economy, with the mentality of the local people.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Combining the two: or maybe more realistically, using the Gabrovo jokes as a Trojan Horse to present more political satire, was what led some entrepreneurial Gabrovians to open a museum.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: [In] Typical Gabrovo style, they didn't build a new building, but they refurbished an old leather factory. So the building we are in is the fromer leather factory. First it was cheaper, second it could go slightly unnoticed because you don't need the same kind of permissions to build and to refurbished.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>And if you wanted your out-of-the-mainstream project to succeed in communist Bulgaria, asking for permission was not the way to go.</p>

<p>The museum started to put on biennials, festivals held every two years which featured invited Western guests. The first was in 1973. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: They immediately started with the biennials, the first edition of the biennials was dedicated to cartoons and small satirical sculpture. It was international and they brought in amazing names. How could that exist? If you think of that time, most cartoonists in the western world would be critical, would be leftists. So they would be very welcome in Bulgaria. And that would indeed be a gathering place for East and West. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>But there was a problem with that first biennial: the jury selected, for first prize, a cartoonist from Turkey, a country on the other side of the Iron Curtain. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: The director thought, "oh wow, what we did?" "What are you doing? How are you going to give a prize to a cartoonist from a NATO country?" And they started asking themselves, but we never asked for permission to start a biennial, to gather all of these people, that's going to be a huge problem, what are we going to do?” Then he thought, what am I going to do? The only thing he could do was go straight to the monster. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>So the director went straight to the daughter of the general secretary and the Bulgarian dictator, Ludmilla Zhivkova, who would later become minister of culture. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: She was good enough to listen. She was smart to perceive good ideas and to support them. So, it worked. She came, she opened the biennial. And it all went on well. And they never gave the reward anymore to a cartoonist coming from a country that would be an issue. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>The museum and the biennials kept growing, until communism collapsed in 1989.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: In 1989, they had more than 80 foreign guests, artists, juries coming for the biennial. So it was massive. After 1989 was the collapse indeed. At that time there were more than 100 people working in the House of Humor. Because if you think of all the different departments: cinema, literature, folklore, it was a big enterprise, with a lot of events, with amazing exhibitions. When I look at photos from the 1970s and 1980s, I'm absolutely astonished by the exhibition design you see. It's amazing, it's so well done. I don't think anywhere in Bulgaria it was so good.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>After the collapse, the museum's staff shrank to a skeleton crew. Dariskova joined the museum in 2016 and argued for a new direction for the museum's curation.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: As you can imagine, until 1989, my colleagues would have insisted that humor is universal. That all human beings all laugh. Humor is omnipresent and universal. The first fight that I had to have with the team when I came was to say, “I’m sorry but humor is not universal.” Humor is so culture based. It’s totally culture-based. Of course, it is safer to say that humor is universal and not to go into political humor. It’s safer. But then you don’t do your job. Our mission is to be very timely, to show things that are happening today. And if a humor and satire museum can’t do that, who else can do that?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>While a lot has improved over the past decade in Bulgaria, media freedom is declining. Most of the press has been purchased by oligarchs, and corruption and collusion between the media and politicians is widespread. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Margarita Dorovska: You know there are issues with freedom of expression in Bulgaria. So at least a museum should be some sort of outlet. </p>
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<p>The museum addresses the civic space in Bulgaria with a new temporary children’s exhibit called Garden Town. The charming subtitle is “where mischief has a happy end.” </p>

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  <p>Margarita Dorovska: We wanted to look at different examples or area of publicness, what’s public life, public debate, public media, public space and so on, and we really wanted to have this theme for children, so for the first time we are doing this children’s exhibition. It’s called Garden Town, and it’s a model of a town where the different neighborhoods address different issues, such as graffiti, you’re invited to draw, or voting, that’s the place where you go by yourself and it’s accidentally a toilet but it’s also a voting room, then we have some gorilla guarding, making bombs of seeds, etc. Finally, there’s the PensivePark where kids -- because they usually come in groups, they are invited to sit down and have a discussion and reach a decision. We give them some advice about how they can make a decision like tossing a coin, or concessions, or voting, or different options -- including anarchy! [laughter]</p>
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<p>It’s really something to see how far the museum has come from starting within the communist system, to reinventing itself to remain relevant in ways that are crucially important to a modern Bulgarian audience. Dariskova admits that the next stage of reinventing -- interpreting humor on the internet, to an audience that lives online -- hasn’t happened yet.</p>

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  <p>Margarita Dorovska: That’s the first big challenge I could think of when I learned that the museum was looking for a director. I came to the museum, I looked at it, I was real impressed, and then I thought how can I change this place? How can you make it really fun when all the fun you need is on your phone. You can just scroll for hours and never stop laughing, so what can a museum do about that? Are we supposed to show the same things? No! You don’t go to the museum to go look at something you could see on your phone. Internet certainly has changed humor a lot. This is an exhibition we’ve been planning but we are trying to find the right research team to prepare that, memes, all the different funny games. It is very interesting to see how internet has been changing humor and where we are at now.</p>
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<p>The way jokes developed in Gabrovo, where people told slightly different versions to each other -- and in the process carefully distilled the most sharable essence of the joke -- mirrors the way that memes are forged in online communities. Constantly morphing to get more attention.</p>

<p>Maybe the best chance we have of interpreting communities online and off comes from a humor museum. Thre Gabrovo Museum of Humour and Satire, which has already morphed through 20 years of communism and 30 years of democracy, is a good place to start. Just close the door quickly when you let the cat out. </p>

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  <title>54. Buzludzha Is Deteriorating. Brian Muthaliff Wants To Turn It Into A Winery.</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>High in the Balkan mountains, Buzludzha monument is deteriorating. Designed to emphasize the power and modernity of the Bulgarian Communist Party, Buzludzha is now at the center of a debate over how Bulgaria remembers its past.

Architect Brian Muthaliff wants the building to evolve along with Bulgaria. His master’s thesis on Buzludzha describes a re-adaption of the site to subvert the original intention of the architecture, including installing a winery and a theater. 

Unlike architect Dora Ivanova’s Buzludzha Project, which we discussed at length in episode 47, Muthaliff’s plan only calls for a single, museum-like space. In this episode, we go in depth on what a museum means and what is the best path forward for this building and for Bulgaria. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>High in the Balkan mountains, Buzludzha monument is deteriorating. Designed to emphasize the power and modernity of the Bulgarian Communist Party (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7I65bs_HH4), Buzludzha is now at the center of a debate over how Bulgaria remembers its past (http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/archives/).
Architect Brian Muthaliff (http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff) wants the building to evolve along with Bulgaria. His master’s thesis on Buzludzha describes a re-adaption of the site to subvert the original intention of the architecture, including installing a winery and a theater. 
Unlike architect Dora Ivanova’s Buzludzha Project (http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project), which we discussed at length in episode 47 (https://www.museumarchipelago.com/47), Muthaliff’s plan (http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff) only calls for a single, museum-like space. In this episode, we use Muthaliff’s thesis as a guide (http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff/R-E-D-Reconstruction-in-an-Era-of-Dilapidation) as we go in-depth on what a museum means and discuss the best path forward for this building and for Bulgaria.
Image: Rendering from R.E.D | Reconstruction in an Era of Dilapidation: A Proposal for the Revitalization of the Former House of the Communist Party by Brian Muthaliff
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00:15: &lt;a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project"&gt;Buzludzha Monument&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
00:45: &lt;a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/47"&gt;Brief History&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
01:45: Brian Muthaliff&lt;br&gt;
02:30: &lt;a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project"&gt;The Buzludzha Project&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
03:18: "Buildings Turned Into Artifacts"&lt;br&gt;
03:50: Reconstruction in an Era of Dilapidation&lt;br&gt;
05:16: &lt;a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/25"&gt;Museum of Socialist Art in Sofia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
05:33: Participatory Architecture&lt;br&gt;
05:50: Buzludzha as Winery&lt;br&gt;
06:45: Buzludzha as Democratic Platform&lt;br&gt;
08:11: Bulgarian Horo&lt;br&gt;
08:50: Museum or no museum?&lt;br&gt;
11:32: Muthaliff's Thesis Defense&lt;br&gt;
12:14: The Future&lt;br&gt;
13:10: &lt;a href="http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff/R-E-D-Reconstruction-in-an-Era-of-Dilapidation"&gt;Read Muthaliff's Thesis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;[Intro]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ever since I visited earlier this year, I can't stop thinking about Buzludzha. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Buzludzha, an enormous disk of concrete perched on a mountaintop in the middle of Bulgaria, celebrates the grandeur of the Bulgarian Communist Party. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rising out of the back of the disk is a tower, 70 meters high, and flanked by two red stars. The building was designed to look like a giant wreath and flag. During its construction, the top of the peak was blown away with dynamite to make way for the building. Today, it's hard not to see a giant UFO. Bulgarian architect Dora Ivanova says that the building's daring design was, of course, intentional. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dora Ivanova: It was built to impress. It was built as part of the political propaganda and education as they called it during this time. Its shape looks like a UFO, actually. This is also on purpose because it had to show how the socialist idea is contemporary, it’s the future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The building is deteriorating, making its futuristic design all the more striking. Buzludzha was completed in 1981, but just 10 years later, the Communist party collapsed. As the regime changed and Bulgaria headed towards a democratic form of government, Buzludzha just sat there. Parts of the structure became exposed to the elements. On the top of the mountain, the building was whipped by strong winds and frozen by temperatures as low as -25 °C. Today, the building has been a ruin way longer than it was a functional building.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Brian Muthaliff: The interiors were everything that I had imagined while approaching it from the exterior, in this kind of derelict state. When on the interior, it was completely dark when we got there. Our flashlights couldn't even get very far, and we were kind of all holding hands, you know, taking the next step carefully. You could see chunks of concrete falling off in certain places.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;This is Brian Muthaliff, a Canadian architect who first visited Buzludzha with his Bulgarian fiancée.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Brian Muthaliff: All right. Hi. My name is Brian Muthaliff. I am an architect in Ontario, Canada, who has his master's thesis focused on the Buzludzha monument in Bulgaria, and the re-adaption of it.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Buzludzha is deteriorating. The question is: what should we do about it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bulgarian architect Dora Ivanova has a plan to turn it into a museum. We highlighted her work, called The Buzludzha Project, in episode 47 of this program.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Buzludzha Project aims to repair and preserve the building and interpret what it means. Bulgaria lacks an interpretive museum about the decades of communist rule under the thumb of the Soviet Union. What better place to put that museum but inside Buzludzha?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ivanova is under no illusions that a painstaking restoration of the building to its original form could give the impression of celebrating the the building’s original ideologies. She thinks that adapting or repurposing the monument would be forgetting or disguising its original intention.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But Brian Muthaliff respectfully disagrees. He wants the building to evolve along with Bulgaria. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Brian Muthaliff: There are two types of museums, I think, that occur in the contemporary world. One, the museum that's built anew to house artifacts. And the second is when buildings get turned into museums as artifacts. Both of them are appropriate in certain circumstances. This is not the case. I think this building speaks to a much broader question than just mere artifact.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Muthaliff also could not stop thinking about Buzludzha after he visited for the first time. He focused his master’s thesis on changing the meaning of the building and what it could be used for in the future -- a process he calls “reprogramming.”&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Brian Muthaliff: The moment we left that building there was this kind of lingering thought about this particular monument. It felt like there was a real potential for the building, and faced with the project of figuring out a thesis, this building stayed in mind. And it wouldn't leave me. So, I decided to make it the focus of the thesis. I think the scope's expanded beyond the building at that point, it became a conversation about the culture in Bulgaria, and this building as a reflection of that culture, and how I could tie the two things together. The thesis became about reprogramming the building as a means of reconciling with their past. And beyond that it became about what type of program, then, is appropriate for this project? What type of program could maybe speak to the Bulgarian history, which is centuries long, I think it's almost 5000 years, and communism makes up a very small fraction of that piece. So when we're talking about the nation's identity, what is that identity? And how can a program, and a building, reconciled, represent that, the nation?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;This is the good stuff. This is what Museum Archipelago is all about. Should this building become a museum, or something else all together? Bulgaria has plenty of communist era monuments -- listen to episode 25 about the Museum of Socialist Art for a fascinating discussion of a museum where statues of Lenin decorate a slightly overgrown field -- but Buzledga is the only monument that you can occupy. For Muthaliff, this is an invitation for people to participate with the architecture. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Brian Muthaliff: I wanted it to be something that people can still participate in, without having to kind of mentally prepare before visiting the building that actually they are going there to learn, in the very traditional way of learning, which is just kind of, you know, reading or being distanced from the object.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;And the means of participation? A winery, of course.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Brian Muthaliff: So the building, in my view in the thesis, ends up being this winery that's open to the public. It cultivates the land. The metaphor there is that it's a productive tool, and production is a kind of means of creating the future. So it's not something that kind of stops, it's not something that you're distanced from, it's not something that you read or that you look at. It's something that you participate in. And through participation, through action, you kind of reconcile your histories. Programmatically, the winery needed to be the thing that draws, that makes the building productive, and then it holds up this kind of shield for the people to sort of celebrate it. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Part of what the redesign accomplishes is subverting  the original intention of the building. The building is designed with one entrance underneath to the main dome, which focuses the visitor experience into the grandeur of the building and, by extension, the Bulgarian communist party. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Muthaliff calls for terraforming the peak so it reaches back to its original height before it was levelved off, leaving some of the building underground. What is now a series of enormous windows high around the dome, providing views of the entire county, become entrances, inviting people in from all corners of Bulgaria. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Brian Muthaliff: It meant to remove the type of procession that was intended from the beginning, which is you kind of ascend in to this halo-ed space. And use the kind of elongated windows that band the circumference of the building as entrance points, as this kind of democratic platform that would invite everybody from around the entire country. And that's, by virtue of the way they placed it in the country, dead center … And then these windows in a circle so kind of have a view to every point of the country, and I thought, they are all portals in to the building. And so if we terraform the mountain top to be what it was, to meet that level, so that people could approach it and enter that space publicly, that again was a kind of subversive move to the architecture political agenda of the building, which is this one kind of procession through this space. Now it would be multiple kind of entries, multiple ways of experiencing the wreath. And then finally hitting or ending up in this kind of celebratory space. Which is at the top of the mountain.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I can’t help but be delighted at subverting the original intention of the building. Muthaliff notes that his proposal reminds him of a traditional Bulgarian dance called the horo: it’s a circular dance that starts off with just a few people. As the dance goes on, the dancers develop a kind of gravity, pulling in people from every which way, and then all of a sudden it's this massive circle, and then it's a spiral, and then it's a kind of a crowd of people all circulring. It’s something a Bulgarian grandmother would approve of.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And speaking of Bulgarian grandmothers, Muthaliff’s thesis does leave room for a single museum-like space. In this case, he describes it as another subversive tool. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Brian Muthaliff: Post the fall, post-1989, there was an initiative to collect letters, and memoirs, and autobiographies, and photographs, of people throughout Bulgaria during the communist period. How great is it as a kind of subversive tool to describe this particular history during this time, through the eyes of the people in this building that was designed kind of from top down? And in the ring that they used as a gallery space to block out the sun, to kind of create the halo of the sickle and hammer, like it all just kind of makes sense as an architectural move that would both pull in the sense of life during communism, so it's in a way directly speaking about communism in this communist building, but about things that I think are far more profound than the kind of political agenda of the communist period.  In some of the stories it would talk about grandmothers, I guess, that are grandmothers now but they weren't at the time, where they got their food, and I thought these histories were far more compelling than perhaps talking about how the building was built. So these are the kind of things and threads that I wanted to pull on, rather than a kind of topical history of communism. And so I think it made for such a great program as the only type of traditional museum piece in the building. I think in my mind, and again the program of the winery, perhaps there's more appropriate programs that could affect the building, but in my mind, it has always been a gathering space. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I’m mesmerised by Muthaliff’s thesis. As Buzludzha continues to deteriorate, both Dora Ivanova and Brian Muthaliff agree that now is the time to act. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Brian Muthaliff: Dora's approach to moving the project forward is absolutely what the country needs. A lot of people are saying, you know, this is the moment now. This is the time we need to take action and we need to do something, 'cause if the country's not moving, then either people are moving out of it or something, or nothing's happening and things are dying. Everything's always dying, right, and we have to kind of maintain our lives to kind of keep the energy going. And so the energy that Dora's putting in to it is absolutely fabulous, and it's exactly what we need for the building.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;As a Bulgarian citizen who is too young to remember the period of communism, I am constantly frustrated by the generall cultural unwillingness to talk about that period. The physical remains of that era and ideology are scattered around the country, but most people I talk to in Bulgaria seem content to quickly move on. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Brian Muthaliff: On an kind of end note, when I presented the thesis to the university, a note that my thesis advisor brought up was that, because I did have an architect on my panel that was critiquing the thesis, that was Romanian. And he was absolutely appalled that anybody would even touch the project. He was more in line with building a glass box beside the building and sipping wine while watching it decay. He carried all these emotions with him, and something that was brought up, there was a young Bulgarian there and then there was this old Romanian architect, and the young architect mentioned that there's been this massive gap, and people, or the country really needs change, and the only people who are gonna do or affect change are us, are the ones responsible now.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I think it all comes down to what we make of museums. Museums shouldn’t be the places where we sip wine and watch objects in glass decay. An interpretive museum could be just as subversive to the original architecture even as it restores it. And there’s no reason why museums can’t be gathering spaces just as engaging as wineries or dance halls. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So if I had a say in the decision, I think I would prefer to build an interpretive museum in the space along the lines of what Dora Ivanova’s Buzludzha Project proposes. But we should take Muthaliff’s thesis, and critique of architecture frozen in time, to heart.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The debate about what to do with Buzludzha continues, and I’m happy to say progress is being made. Just recently a team of experts from the European heritage organisation Europa Nostra conducted a survey of the building. I hope, in my own way, to work on whatever the building becomes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Muthaliff’s complete thesis, called Reconstruction in an Era of Dilapidation, is available in the show notes. It’s full of fascinating diagrams, well-thought out readings, and intricate renderings. Give it a read. &lt;/p&gt;

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    <![CDATA[<p>High in the Balkan mountains, Buzludzha monument is deteriorating. Designed to emphasize <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7I65bs_HH4" rel="nofollow">the power and modernity of the Bulgarian Communist Party</a>, Buzludzha is now at the center of a debate over <a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/archives/" rel="nofollow">how Bulgaria remembers its past</a>.</p>

<p>Architect <a href="http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff" rel="nofollow">Brian Muthaliff</a> wants the building to evolve along with Bulgaria. His master’s thesis on Buzludzha describes a re-adaption of the site to subvert the original intention of the architecture, including installing a winery and a theater. </p>

<p>Unlike architect Dora Ivanova’s <a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project" rel="nofollow">Buzludzha Project</a>, <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/47" rel="nofollow">which we discussed at length in episode 47</a>, <a href="http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff" rel="nofollow">Muthaliff’s plan</a> only calls for a single, museum-like space. In this episode, we <a href="http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff/R-E-D-Reconstruction-in-an-Era-of-Dilapidation" rel="nofollow">use Muthaliff’s thesis as a guide</a> as we go in-depth on what a museum means and discuss the best path forward for this building and for Bulgaria.</p>

<p><em>Image: Rendering from R.E.D | Reconstruction in an Era of Dilapidation: A Proposal for the Revitalization of the Former House of the Communist Party by Brian Muthaliff</em></p>

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<p>00:00: Intro<br>
00:15: <a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project">Buzludzha Monument</a><br>
00:45: <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/47">Brief History</a><br>
01:45: Brian Muthaliff<br>
02:30: <a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project">The Buzludzha Project</a><br>
03:18: "Buildings Turned Into Artifacts"<br>
03:50: Reconstruction in an Era of Dilapidation<br>
05:16: <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/25">Museum of Socialist Art in Sofia</a><br>
05:33: Participatory Architecture<br>
05:50: Buzludzha as Winery<br>
06:45: Buzludzha as Democratic Platform<br>
08:11: Bulgarian Horo<br>
08:50: Museum or no museum?<br>
11:32: Muthaliff's Thesis Defense<br>
12:14: The Future<br>
13:10: <a href="http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff/R-E-D-Reconstruction-in-an-Era-of-Dilapidation">Read Muthaliff's Thesis</a></p>

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<p>Ever since I visited earlier this year, I can't stop thinking about Buzludzha. </p>

<p>Buzludzha, an enormous disk of concrete perched on a mountaintop in the middle of Bulgaria, celebrates the grandeur of the Bulgarian Communist Party. </p>

<p>Rising out of the back of the disk is a tower, 70 meters high, and flanked by two red stars. The building was designed to look like a giant wreath and flag. During its construction, the top of the peak was blown away with dynamite to make way for the building. Today, it's hard not to see a giant UFO. Bulgarian architect Dora Ivanova says that the building's daring design was, of course, intentional. </p>

<p>Dora Ivanova: It was built to impress. It was built as part of the political propaganda and education as they called it during this time. Its shape looks like a UFO, actually. This is also on purpose because it had to show how the socialist idea is contemporary, it’s the future.</p>

<p>The building is deteriorating, making its futuristic design all the more striking. Buzludzha was completed in 1981, but just 10 years later, the Communist party collapsed. As the regime changed and Bulgaria headed towards a democratic form of government, Buzludzha just sat there. Parts of the structure became exposed to the elements. On the top of the mountain, the building was whipped by strong winds and frozen by temperatures as low as -25 °C. Today, the building has been a ruin way longer than it was a functional building.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: The interiors were everything that I had imagined while approaching it from the exterior, in this kind of derelict state. When on the interior, it was completely dark when we got there. Our flashlights couldn't even get very far, and we were kind of all holding hands, you know, taking the next step carefully. You could see chunks of concrete falling off in certain places.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is Brian Muthaliff, a Canadian architect who first visited Buzludzha with his Bulgarian fiancée.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: All right. Hi. My name is Brian Muthaliff. I am an architect in Ontario, Canada, who has his master's thesis focused on the Buzludzha monument in Bulgaria, and the re-adaption of it.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Buzludzha is deteriorating. The question is: what should we do about it?</p>

<p>Bulgarian architect Dora Ivanova has a plan to turn it into a museum. We highlighted her work, called The Buzludzha Project, in episode 47 of this program.</p>

<p>The Buzludzha Project aims to repair and preserve the building and interpret what it means. Bulgaria lacks an interpretive museum about the decades of communist rule under the thumb of the Soviet Union. What better place to put that museum but inside Buzludzha?</p>

<p>Ivanova is under no illusions that a painstaking restoration of the building to its original form could give the impression of celebrating the the building’s original ideologies. She thinks that adapting or repurposing the monument would be forgetting or disguising its original intention.</p>

<p>But Brian Muthaliff respectfully disagrees. He wants the building to evolve along with Bulgaria. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: There are two types of museums, I think, that occur in the contemporary world. One, the museum that's built anew to house artifacts. And the second is when buildings get turned into museums as artifacts. Both of them are appropriate in certain circumstances. This is not the case. I think this building speaks to a much broader question than just mere artifact.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Muthaliff also could not stop thinking about Buzludzha after he visited for the first time. He focused his master’s thesis on changing the meaning of the building and what it could be used for in the future -- a process he calls “reprogramming.”</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: The moment we left that building there was this kind of lingering thought about this particular monument. It felt like there was a real potential for the building, and faced with the project of figuring out a thesis, this building stayed in mind. And it wouldn't leave me. So, I decided to make it the focus of the thesis. I think the scope's expanded beyond the building at that point, it became a conversation about the culture in Bulgaria, and this building as a reflection of that culture, and how I could tie the two things together. The thesis became about reprogramming the building as a means of reconciling with their past. And beyond that it became about what type of program, then, is appropriate for this project? What type of program could maybe speak to the Bulgarian history, which is centuries long, I think it's almost 5000 years, and communism makes up a very small fraction of that piece. So when we're talking about the nation's identity, what is that identity? And how can a program, and a building, reconciled, represent that, the nation?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is the good stuff. This is what Museum Archipelago is all about. Should this building become a museum, or something else all together? Bulgaria has plenty of communist era monuments -- listen to episode 25 about the Museum of Socialist Art for a fascinating discussion of a museum where statues of Lenin decorate a slightly overgrown field -- but Buzledga is the only monument that you can occupy. For Muthaliff, this is an invitation for people to participate with the architecture. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: I wanted it to be something that people can still participate in, without having to kind of mentally prepare before visiting the building that actually they are going there to learn, in the very traditional way of learning, which is just kind of, you know, reading or being distanced from the object.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>And the means of participation? A winery, of course.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: So the building, in my view in the thesis, ends up being this winery that's open to the public. It cultivates the land. The metaphor there is that it's a productive tool, and production is a kind of means of creating the future. So it's not something that kind of stops, it's not something that you're distanced from, it's not something that you read or that you look at. It's something that you participate in. And through participation, through action, you kind of reconcile your histories. Programmatically, the winery needed to be the thing that draws, that makes the building productive, and then it holds up this kind of shield for the people to sort of celebrate it. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Part of what the redesign accomplishes is subverting  the original intention of the building. The building is designed with one entrance underneath to the main dome, which focuses the visitor experience into the grandeur of the building and, by extension, the Bulgarian communist party. </p>

<p>Muthaliff calls for terraforming the peak so it reaches back to its original height before it was levelved off, leaving some of the building underground. What is now a series of enormous windows high around the dome, providing views of the entire county, become entrances, inviting people in from all corners of Bulgaria. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: It meant to remove the type of procession that was intended from the beginning, which is you kind of ascend in to this halo-ed space. And use the kind of elongated windows that band the circumference of the building as entrance points, as this kind of democratic platform that would invite everybody from around the entire country. And that's, by virtue of the way they placed it in the country, dead center … And then these windows in a circle so kind of have a view to every point of the country, and I thought, they are all portals in to the building. And so if we terraform the mountain top to be what it was, to meet that level, so that people could approach it and enter that space publicly, that again was a kind of subversive move to the architecture political agenda of the building, which is this one kind of procession through this space. Now it would be multiple kind of entries, multiple ways of experiencing the wreath. And then finally hitting or ending up in this kind of celebratory space. Which is at the top of the mountain.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I can’t help but be delighted at subverting the original intention of the building. Muthaliff notes that his proposal reminds him of a traditional Bulgarian dance called the horo: it’s a circular dance that starts off with just a few people. As the dance goes on, the dancers develop a kind of gravity, pulling in people from every which way, and then all of a sudden it's this massive circle, and then it's a spiral, and then it's a kind of a crowd of people all circulring. It’s something a Bulgarian grandmother would approve of.</p>

<p>And speaking of Bulgarian grandmothers, Muthaliff’s thesis does leave room for a single museum-like space. In this case, he describes it as another subversive tool. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: Post the fall, post-1989, there was an initiative to collect letters, and memoirs, and autobiographies, and photographs, of people throughout Bulgaria during the communist period. How great is it as a kind of subversive tool to describe this particular history during this time, through the eyes of the people in this building that was designed kind of from top down? And in the ring that they used as a gallery space to block out the sun, to kind of create the halo of the sickle and hammer, like it all just kind of makes sense as an architectural move that would both pull in the sense of life during communism, so it's in a way directly speaking about communism in this communist building, but about things that I think are far more profound than the kind of political agenda of the communist period.  In some of the stories it would talk about grandmothers, I guess, that are grandmothers now but they weren't at the time, where they got their food, and I thought these histories were far more compelling than perhaps talking about how the building was built. So these are the kind of things and threads that I wanted to pull on, rather than a kind of topical history of communism. And so I think it made for such a great program as the only type of traditional museum piece in the building. I think in my mind, and again the program of the winery, perhaps there's more appropriate programs that could affect the building, but in my mind, it has always been a gathering space. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>I’m mesmerised by Muthaliff’s thesis. As Buzludzha continues to deteriorate, both Dora Ivanova and Brian Muthaliff agree that now is the time to act. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: Dora's approach to moving the project forward is absolutely what the country needs. A lot of people are saying, you know, this is the moment now. This is the time we need to take action and we need to do something, 'cause if the country's not moving, then either people are moving out of it or something, or nothing's happening and things are dying. Everything's always dying, right, and we have to kind of maintain our lives to kind of keep the energy going. And so the energy that Dora's putting in to it is absolutely fabulous, and it's exactly what we need for the building.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>As a Bulgarian citizen who is too young to remember the period of communism, I am constantly frustrated by the generall cultural unwillingness to talk about that period. The physical remains of that era and ideology are scattered around the country, but most people I talk to in Bulgaria seem content to quickly move on. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: On an kind of end note, when I presented the thesis to the university, a note that my thesis advisor brought up was that, because I did have an architect on my panel that was critiquing the thesis, that was Romanian. And he was absolutely appalled that anybody would even touch the project. He was more in line with building a glass box beside the building and sipping wine while watching it decay. He carried all these emotions with him, and something that was brought up, there was a young Bulgarian there and then there was this old Romanian architect, and the young architect mentioned that there's been this massive gap, and people, or the country really needs change, and the only people who are gonna do or affect change are us, are the ones responsible now.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I think it all comes down to what we make of museums. Museums shouldn’t be the places where we sip wine and watch objects in glass decay. An interpretive museum could be just as subversive to the original architecture even as it restores it. And there’s no reason why museums can’t be gathering spaces just as engaging as wineries or dance halls. </p>

<p>So if I had a say in the decision, I think I would prefer to build an interpretive museum in the space along the lines of what Dora Ivanova’s Buzludzha Project proposes. But we should take Muthaliff’s thesis, and critique of architecture frozen in time, to heart.</p>

<p>The debate about what to do with Buzludzha continues, and I’m happy to say progress is being made. Just recently a team of experts from the European heritage organisation Europa Nostra conducted a survey of the building. I hope, in my own way, to work on whatever the building becomes.</p>

<p>Muthaliff’s complete thesis, called Reconstruction in an Era of Dilapidation, is available in the show notes. It’s full of fascinating diagrams, well-thought out readings, and intricate renderings. Give it a read. </p>

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    <![CDATA[<p>High in the Balkan mountains, Buzludzha monument is deteriorating. Designed to emphasize <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7I65bs_HH4" rel="nofollow">the power and modernity of the Bulgarian Communist Party</a>, Buzludzha is now at the center of a debate over <a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/archives/" rel="nofollow">how Bulgaria remembers its past</a>.</p>

<p>Architect <a href="http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff" rel="nofollow">Brian Muthaliff</a> wants the building to evolve along with Bulgaria. His master’s thesis on Buzludzha describes a re-adaption of the site to subvert the original intention of the architecture, including installing a winery and a theater. </p>

<p>Unlike architect Dora Ivanova’s <a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project" rel="nofollow">Buzludzha Project</a>, <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/47" rel="nofollow">which we discussed at length in episode 47</a>, <a href="http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff" rel="nofollow">Muthaliff’s plan</a> only calls for a single, museum-like space. In this episode, we <a href="http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff/R-E-D-Reconstruction-in-an-Era-of-Dilapidation" rel="nofollow">use Muthaliff’s thesis as a guide</a> as we go in-depth on what a museum means and discuss the best path forward for this building and for Bulgaria.</p>

<p><em>Image: Rendering from R.E.D | Reconstruction in an Era of Dilapidation: A Proposal for the Revitalization of the Former House of the Communist Party by Brian Muthaliff</em></p>

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<p>00:00: Intro<br>
00:15: <a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project">Buzludzha Monument</a><br>
00:45: <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/47">Brief History</a><br>
01:45: Brian Muthaliff<br>
02:30: <a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project">The Buzludzha Project</a><br>
03:18: "Buildings Turned Into Artifacts"<br>
03:50: Reconstruction in an Era of Dilapidation<br>
05:16: <a href="https://www.museumarchipelago.com/25">Museum of Socialist Art in Sofia</a><br>
05:33: Participatory Architecture<br>
05:50: Buzludzha as Winery<br>
06:45: Buzludzha as Democratic Platform<br>
08:11: Bulgarian Horo<br>
08:50: Museum or no museum?<br>
11:32: Muthaliff's Thesis Defense<br>
12:14: The Future<br>
13:10: <a href="http://cargocollective.com/bmuthaliff/R-E-D-Reconstruction-in-an-Era-of-Dilapidation">Read Muthaliff's Thesis</a></p>

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<p>[Intro]</p>

<p>Ever since I visited earlier this year, I can't stop thinking about Buzludzha. </p>

<p>Buzludzha, an enormous disk of concrete perched on a mountaintop in the middle of Bulgaria, celebrates the grandeur of the Bulgarian Communist Party. </p>

<p>Rising out of the back of the disk is a tower, 70 meters high, and flanked by two red stars. The building was designed to look like a giant wreath and flag. During its construction, the top of the peak was blown away with dynamite to make way for the building. Today, it's hard not to see a giant UFO. Bulgarian architect Dora Ivanova says that the building's daring design was, of course, intentional. </p>

<p>Dora Ivanova: It was built to impress. It was built as part of the political propaganda and education as they called it during this time. Its shape looks like a UFO, actually. This is also on purpose because it had to show how the socialist idea is contemporary, it’s the future.</p>

<p>The building is deteriorating, making its futuristic design all the more striking. Buzludzha was completed in 1981, but just 10 years later, the Communist party collapsed. As the regime changed and Bulgaria headed towards a democratic form of government, Buzludzha just sat there. Parts of the structure became exposed to the elements. On the top of the mountain, the building was whipped by strong winds and frozen by temperatures as low as -25 °C. Today, the building has been a ruin way longer than it was a functional building.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: The interiors were everything that I had imagined while approaching it from the exterior, in this kind of derelict state. When on the interior, it was completely dark when we got there. Our flashlights couldn't even get very far, and we were kind of all holding hands, you know, taking the next step carefully. You could see chunks of concrete falling off in certain places.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is Brian Muthaliff, a Canadian architect who first visited Buzludzha with his Bulgarian fiancée.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: All right. Hi. My name is Brian Muthaliff. I am an architect in Ontario, Canada, who has his master's thesis focused on the Buzludzha monument in Bulgaria, and the re-adaption of it.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Buzludzha is deteriorating. The question is: what should we do about it?</p>

<p>Bulgarian architect Dora Ivanova has a plan to turn it into a museum. We highlighted her work, called The Buzludzha Project, in episode 47 of this program.</p>

<p>The Buzludzha Project aims to repair and preserve the building and interpret what it means. Bulgaria lacks an interpretive museum about the decades of communist rule under the thumb of the Soviet Union. What better place to put that museum but inside Buzludzha?</p>

<p>Ivanova is under no illusions that a painstaking restoration of the building to its original form could give the impression of celebrating the the building’s original ideologies. She thinks that adapting or repurposing the monument would be forgetting or disguising its original intention.</p>

<p>But Brian Muthaliff respectfully disagrees. He wants the building to evolve along with Bulgaria. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: There are two types of museums, I think, that occur in the contemporary world. One, the museum that's built anew to house artifacts. And the second is when buildings get turned into museums as artifacts. Both of them are appropriate in certain circumstances. This is not the case. I think this building speaks to a much broader question than just mere artifact.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Muthaliff also could not stop thinking about Buzludzha after he visited for the first time. He focused his master’s thesis on changing the meaning of the building and what it could be used for in the future -- a process he calls “reprogramming.”</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: The moment we left that building there was this kind of lingering thought about this particular monument. It felt like there was a real potential for the building, and faced with the project of figuring out a thesis, this building stayed in mind. And it wouldn't leave me. So, I decided to make it the focus of the thesis. I think the scope's expanded beyond the building at that point, it became a conversation about the culture in Bulgaria, and this building as a reflection of that culture, and how I could tie the two things together. The thesis became about reprogramming the building as a means of reconciling with their past. And beyond that it became about what type of program, then, is appropriate for this project? What type of program could maybe speak to the Bulgarian history, which is centuries long, I think it's almost 5000 years, and communism makes up a very small fraction of that piece. So when we're talking about the nation's identity, what is that identity? And how can a program, and a building, reconciled, represent that, the nation?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is the good stuff. This is what Museum Archipelago is all about. Should this building become a museum, or something else all together? Bulgaria has plenty of communist era monuments -- listen to episode 25 about the Museum of Socialist Art for a fascinating discussion of a museum where statues of Lenin decorate a slightly overgrown field -- but Buzledga is the only monument that you can occupy. For Muthaliff, this is an invitation for people to participate with the architecture. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: I wanted it to be something that people can still participate in, without having to kind of mentally prepare before visiting the building that actually they are going there to learn, in the very traditional way of learning, which is just kind of, you know, reading or being distanced from the object.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>And the means of participation? A winery, of course.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: So the building, in my view in the thesis, ends up being this winery that's open to the public. It cultivates the land. The metaphor there is that it's a productive tool, and production is a kind of means of creating the future. So it's not something that kind of stops, it's not something that you're distanced from, it's not something that you read or that you look at. It's something that you participate in. And through participation, through action, you kind of reconcile your histories. Programmatically, the winery needed to be the thing that draws, that makes the building productive, and then it holds up this kind of shield for the people to sort of celebrate it. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Part of what the redesign accomplishes is subverting  the original intention of the building. The building is designed with one entrance underneath to the main dome, which focuses the visitor experience into the grandeur of the building and, by extension, the Bulgarian communist party. </p>

<p>Muthaliff calls for terraforming the peak so it reaches back to its original height before it was levelved off, leaving some of the building underground. What is now a series of enormous windows high around the dome, providing views of the entire county, become entrances, inviting people in from all corners of Bulgaria. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: It meant to remove the type of procession that was intended from the beginning, which is you kind of ascend in to this halo-ed space. And use the kind of elongated windows that band the circumference of the building as entrance points, as this kind of democratic platform that would invite everybody from around the entire country. And that's, by virtue of the way they placed it in the country, dead center … And then these windows in a circle so kind of have a view to every point of the country, and I thought, they are all portals in to the building. And so if we terraform the mountain top to be what it was, to meet that level, so that people could approach it and enter that space publicly, that again was a kind of subversive move to the architecture political agenda of the building, which is this one kind of procession through this space. Now it would be multiple kind of entries, multiple ways of experiencing the wreath. And then finally hitting or ending up in this kind of celebratory space. Which is at the top of the mountain.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I can’t help but be delighted at subverting the original intention of the building. Muthaliff notes that his proposal reminds him of a traditional Bulgarian dance called the horo: it’s a circular dance that starts off with just a few people. As the dance goes on, the dancers develop a kind of gravity, pulling in people from every which way, and then all of a sudden it's this massive circle, and then it's a spiral, and then it's a kind of a crowd of people all circulring. It’s something a Bulgarian grandmother would approve of.</p>

<p>And speaking of Bulgarian grandmothers, Muthaliff’s thesis does leave room for a single museum-like space. In this case, he describes it as another subversive tool. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: Post the fall, post-1989, there was an initiative to collect letters, and memoirs, and autobiographies, and photographs, of people throughout Bulgaria during the communist period. How great is it as a kind of subversive tool to describe this particular history during this time, through the eyes of the people in this building that was designed kind of from top down? And in the ring that they used as a gallery space to block out the sun, to kind of create the halo of the sickle and hammer, like it all just kind of makes sense as an architectural move that would both pull in the sense of life during communism, so it's in a way directly speaking about communism in this communist building, but about things that I think are far more profound than the kind of political agenda of the communist period.  In some of the stories it would talk about grandmothers, I guess, that are grandmothers now but they weren't at the time, where they got their food, and I thought these histories were far more compelling than perhaps talking about how the building was built. So these are the kind of things and threads that I wanted to pull on, rather than a kind of topical history of communism. And so I think it made for such a great program as the only type of traditional museum piece in the building. I think in my mind, and again the program of the winery, perhaps there's more appropriate programs that could affect the building, but in my mind, it has always been a gathering space. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>I’m mesmerised by Muthaliff’s thesis. As Buzludzha continues to deteriorate, both Dora Ivanova and Brian Muthaliff agree that now is the time to act. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: Dora's approach to moving the project forward is absolutely what the country needs. A lot of people are saying, you know, this is the moment now. This is the time we need to take action and we need to do something, 'cause if the country's not moving, then either people are moving out of it or something, or nothing's happening and things are dying. Everything's always dying, right, and we have to kind of maintain our lives to kind of keep the energy going. And so the energy that Dora's putting in to it is absolutely fabulous, and it's exactly what we need for the building.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>As a Bulgarian citizen who is too young to remember the period of communism, I am constantly frustrated by the generall cultural unwillingness to talk about that period. The physical remains of that era and ideology are scattered around the country, but most people I talk to in Bulgaria seem content to quickly move on. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Brian Muthaliff: On an kind of end note, when I presented the thesis to the university, a note that my thesis advisor brought up was that, because I did have an architect on my panel that was critiquing the thesis, that was Romanian. And he was absolutely appalled that anybody would even touch the project. He was more in line with building a glass box beside the building and sipping wine while watching it decay. He carried all these emotions with him, and something that was brought up, there was a young Bulgarian there and then there was this old Romanian architect, and the young architect mentioned that there's been this massive gap, and people, or the country really needs change, and the only people who are gonna do or affect change are us, are the ones responsible now.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I think it all comes down to what we make of museums. Museums shouldn’t be the places where we sip wine and watch objects in glass decay. An interpretive museum could be just as subversive to the original architecture even as it restores it. And there’s no reason why museums can’t be gathering spaces just as engaging as wineries or dance halls. </p>

<p>So if I had a say in the decision, I think I would prefer to build an interpretive museum in the space along the lines of what Dora Ivanova’s Buzludzha Project proposes. But we should take Muthaliff’s thesis, and critique of architecture frozen in time, to heart.</p>

<p>The debate about what to do with Buzludzha continues, and I’m happy to say progress is being made. Just recently a team of experts from the European heritage organisation Europa Nostra conducted a survey of the building. I hope, in my own way, to work on whatever the building becomes.</p>

<p>Muthaliff’s complete thesis, called Reconstruction in an Era of Dilapidation, is available in the show notes. It’s full of fascinating diagrams, well-thought out readings, and intricate renderings. Give it a read. </p>

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  <itunes:subtitle>The Jewish Museum of History in Sofia, Bulgaria tells the full story of the Jewish people in Bulgaria from ancient Roman times to today.  The museum takes on the complexities of the rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria from deportation to Nazi death camps during the Second World War.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>The Jewish Museum of History in Sofia, Bulgaria (http://www.sofiasynagogue.com) is housed on the second floor of the Sofia Synagogue in the center of Bulgaria's capital, just steps away from an Orthodox Church, and Sofia's Mosque. This clustering of places of worship — it's hard to find another example of this in Europe — is part of the unique story of Jewish people in Bulgaria. 
While the museum tells the full story of the Jewish people in Bulgaria (http://www.sofiasynagogue.com/index.php?content_id=5) from ancient Roman times to today, Yulina Mihaylova of the Jewish Museum of History says that the culmination of the story is the rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria from deportation to Nazi death camps during the Second World War. The museum takes on the complexities of this story (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_the_Bulgarian_Jews), including the fact that not all Jews in Bulgarian-controlled territories were saved from deportation, and uses it to challenge young visitors.
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00:00 Intro&lt;br&gt;
00:14 Jewish Museum of History in Sofia, Bulgaria&lt;br&gt;
01:10 Yulina Mihaylova&lt;br&gt;
01:50 &lt;a href="http://www.sofiasynagogue.com/index.php?content_id=5"&gt;The Sofia Synagogue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
02:10 Jews in Bulgaria in the Early 20th Century&lt;br&gt;
04:00 &lt;a href="http://www.sofiasynagogue.com/index.php?content_id=5"&gt;Jews in Bulgaria During World War Two&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
04:50 &lt;em&gt;The Holocaust and the Rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
09:44 Jews in Bulgaria During Communist Times&lt;br&gt;
10:45 Educational Programming Moral Message&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Below is a transcript of Museum Archipelago episode 51. Museum Archipelago is produced for the ear and the only the audio of the episode is canonical. For more information on the people and ideas in the episode, refer to the links above.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


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&lt;p&gt;Sometimes in the Museum Archipelago, museums are isolated from other institutions by vast bodies of water, and sometimes, points of interest are clustered in dense island chains.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Jewish Museum of History in Sofia, Bulgaria is one of the latter. The museum is housed on the second floor of the Sofia Synagogue in the center of Bulgaria's capital, just steps away from an Orthodox Church, and Sofia's main Mosque. This clustering of places of worship -- it's hard to find another example of this in Europe or the rest of the world -- is part of the unique story of Jewish people in Bulgaria. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Yulina Mihaylova: It's very unique because it makes this triangle of the three religions. The combination and interaction between the ethnic groups together shows this very rich historical past when the Jews live among the others. It's also part of our unique narrative which we try to say in the museum itself.”&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;This is Yulina Mihaylova. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Yulina Mihaylova: Hello my name is Yulina Mihaylova, and I'm working for the Jewish Historical Museum in Sofia for the past 15 years. My job combines working with visitors and. Our main task is to represent the history of the Bulgarian Jews back 2000 years. It’s just not the story of the Jewish people. It’s more than it because we try to say the story of the interaction of the Jewish people and the Bulgarians also. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The Sofia Synagogue is the third largest in Europe. This particular Synagogue, built on the site of earlier Jewish prayer houses, opened in 1909, with a ceremony that included Sofia's political and religious elite. The opening ceremony took place 31 years after Bulgaria's liberation, which guaranteed equal civil rights to minority religious groups. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Yulina Mihaylova: We speak about the early time of the early 20th century, and just to make comparison to what happened at that time in Europe, mainly in Eastern Europe, in Russia with the persecution of Jews there, and on the same time we have in Bulgaria quite a good relation between the regime and the Jewish community. I mean, not everything was so idealistic of course. But in general we can say that the Jews, after the liberation of Bulgaria from the Turkish domination, gained equal rights with other minority groups who lived in Bulgaria, which was guaranteed by the Bulgarian constitution. Means that it actually gave push to the development of the Jewish communities in Bulgaria, on a new ground. The fact that we have communities and synagogues in almost every Bulgarian city, and there was almost 30 communities all around Bulgaria. So the opening ceremony was a remarkable event. The fact that actually, the political elite was invited to [participate] in the ceremony, was a very important sign for the connection between the officials at the time and Bulgarian Jewish community.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;While the opening of the Sofia Synagogue represents the high water mark of the relationship between Jews living in Bulgaria and the rulers of Bulgaria, one of the main tasks of the museum is to represent the historical trace of Jewish people on the Balkan peninsula from ancient Roman period, to the present day. In the museum, this is achieved through a permanent exhibit called Jewish Communities in Bulgaria. A section of the exhibit is an ethnographic display which shows the daily life of the Jews from the late 19th to early 20th centuries and ritual artifacts from synagogues across Bulgaria.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The other permanent exhibition is about Bulgarian Jews during World War II, the topic that Mihaylova says is at the front of mind of most visitors. For a summary of Bulgaria’s early 20th century political history up to World War II, listen to episode 49 of this program, about the Bulgarian Museum of Military History, but here are the important section for this story:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anti-semitism notably increased across eastern Europe after the introduction of the Nuremberg laws in Nazi Germany in 1935, and by the late 1930s, anti-Jewish propaganda gradually intensified within Bulgaria with Bulgaria's rising economic and political dependence on Nazi Germany.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The exhibition itself  is called The Holocaust and the Rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria, and, as Mihaylova explains, this title is overly simplistic. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Yulina Mihaylova: The story of what happened during the years 1941 and 1943. This is the culmination of the story, of the long existence between both two people. The first time when the Jews were tried to be divided from the rest part of society came during the World War II, when Bulgaria connected to Nazi Germany and it began to be connected to Nazi policy. What happened in brief: during the war, it was official policy with special legislation passed by the Bulgarian government after 1941. We treated Jews in a different way on economic, social, culture and political range, with a limitation of their rights, and this law became even more severe in 1942 when already there was an institution which was arranged for trying to organize the life of the Jews and confiscated Jewish property and also starting the organization of the deportation of Bulgarian Jews, which in 1943 started already with the Jews from the so-called new territories of Macedonia and Trace. This part of the story is not easy to explain, because usually it is good to think about the bright side of the story, and to neglect this part. It's important on one hand because this was part of the official policy of the Bulgarian government and this territories was part of the administrative territories of the Bulgarian at that time. Unfortunately, almost 12,000 Jews were deported from the territories of Macedonia and Trace, only to be the first stage, which had to continue with the Jews from Bulgaria, also. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The Jews from the territories of Macedonia and Trace were sent to Treblinka extermination camp in Poland. But these deportations, intended to be the first of many, would be the last. No other Jews were deported from Bulgaria or Bulgarian-controlled territories. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Yulina Mihaylova: But what is important is that when it came to Bulgaria we saw something very unique. Already, when they started discussions of law in 1940, it became clear that it wasn’t going to pass in peace, because there began to be very strong civil opposition against it from the many different circles of the Bulgarian society. It already give a clear sign that the Bulgarian society in general, it was not ready to accept this sort of policy against their Jewish fellows in Bulgaria. We see in 1943 when the plan for deportation started to be clear, even in Bulgaria, it actually faced a very strong opposition, even from the right and from the left and we see this opposition even in the circles of the Bulgarian political majority. On top of it was the vice-chairman of the Bulgarian government, Dimetre Patechiv, who organized this opposition and also managed to put pressure on the government between the crucial time.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;All this civil pressure made the government have to postpone, ultimately indefinitely, the deportations to Nazi extermination camps. While Bulgarian officials remained differential to their German contacts, internally, they delayed and delayed, citing the need for Bulgarian Jews to remain in Bulgaria to work on Bulgarian infrastructure projects.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Yulina Mihaylova: Bulgarian example is very unique, and sometimes they try to compare this to the Danish Jews, the Jews there were saved by the locals. But Bulgarian example is the Bulgarian example. It’s a combination of facts. There was the one hand there was policy against Jewish minority, but on the other hand we have full mobilization of civil power in 1943 which became one of the major factors of saving the live of the entire Jewish community who live within the Bulgarian borders during the war. That's very important to say. It's good example and good lesson for us to understand what we can understand from this is what we can learn from this, is that it's actually a very good idea to raise your voice, even when you think that it's actually desperate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Holocaust and the Rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria is an example of an exhibit about a topic that can’t be neatly summarized -- and any attempt to tell a positive story without including the deportation of the Jews from the Bulgarian-controlled territories of Macedonia and Trace is wrong. To resist the simple story, or the comfortable narrative, is what we rely on museums for.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Towards the end of the war, the synagogue roof was badly damaged by an American bombing raid on Sofia and the building remained in bad condition for many years. After the war ended Bulgaria was under control of a Socialist government, and many Bulgarian Jews, in fact the vast  majority, immigrated to Israel.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Yulina Mihaylova: More than 90% of the 50,000 Jews who live in Bulgaria immigrated to Israel   after the war, and most of the artifacts from the other synagogues were replaced to Sofia, and are exposed to our museum also so this is part of our story to tell, the entire story of Jews in Bulgaria not just from Sofia. During the communist time, the community shrunk to some very crucial number of several thousand people, but it's very important to say that it's not true that everything stopped after the war. Although, of course, the communist regime didn't encourage so much the religious activity,but still there was a small flame which keep the Jews who remained in Bulgaria, but they actually gave the push, after the collapse of the communist regime to try to revive the Jewish life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Today, the Synagogue is fully active, and the museum on the second floor presents the sweep of Jewish history in Bulgaria. But the museum also offers a strong moral message to visitors through its educational programing. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Yulina Mihaylova: I try to say to my audience, which is on one hand tourists from many different countries, mainly from Israel, from the US, from Europe who are guests in Sofia, but on the other we have many students from Jewish high schools, from universities who are actually interested in the topic. For me, the great challenge is to speak before young people and try not just to tell them the story but to ask them questions and try to challenge them to think about the story, if they were on this place and how they could react in this moment. It's not an easy task. Sometimes because we are a small museum, our programs are not so well developed, but we are very limited in staff, but I think this is the only place in Bulgaria where you can hear the full story of the Jewish presence in Bulgaria, with the story of the Bulgarian Jewish [experience] in World War II and till present days. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>While the museum tells the <a href="http://www.sofiasynagogue.com/index.php?content_id=5" rel="nofollow">full story of the Jewish people in Bulgaria</a> from ancient Roman times to today, Yulina Mihaylova of the Jewish Museum of History says that the culmination of the story is the rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria from deportation to Nazi death camps during the Second World War. The museum <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_the_Bulgarian_Jews" rel="nofollow">takes on the complexities of this story</a>, including the fact that not all Jews in Bulgarian-controlled territories were saved from deportation, and uses it to challenge young visitors.</p>

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00:00 Intro<br>
00:14 Jewish Museum of History in Sofia, Bulgaria<br>
01:10 Yulina Mihaylova<br>
01:50 <a href="http://www.sofiasynagogue.com/index.php?content_id=5">The Sofia Synagogue</a><br>
02:10 Jews in Bulgaria in the Early 20th Century<br>
04:00 <a href="http://www.sofiasynagogue.com/index.php?content_id=5">Jews in Bulgaria During World War Two</a><br>
04:50 <em>The Holocaust and the Rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria</em><br>
09:44 Jews in Bulgaria During Communist Times<br>
10:45 Educational Programming Moral Message<br>
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<p>Sometimes in the Museum Archipelago, museums are isolated from other institutions by vast bodies of water, and sometimes, points of interest are clustered in dense island chains.</p>

<p>The Jewish Museum of History in Sofia, Bulgaria is one of the latter. The museum is housed on the second floor of the Sofia Synagogue in the center of Bulgaria's capital, just steps away from an Orthodox Church, and Sofia's main Mosque. This clustering of places of worship -- it's hard to find another example of this in Europe or the rest of the world -- is part of the unique story of Jewish people in Bulgaria. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: It's very unique because it makes this triangle of the three religions. The combination and interaction between the ethnic groups together shows this very rich historical past when the Jews live among the others. It's also part of our unique narrative which we try to say in the museum itself.”</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is Yulina Mihaylova. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: Hello my name is Yulina Mihaylova, and I'm working for the Jewish Historical Museum in Sofia for the past 15 years. My job combines working with visitors and. Our main task is to represent the history of the Bulgarian Jews back 2000 years. It’s just not the story of the Jewish people. It’s more than it because we try to say the story of the interaction of the Jewish people and the Bulgarians also. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>The Sofia Synagogue is the third largest in Europe. This particular Synagogue, built on the site of earlier Jewish prayer houses, opened in 1909, with a ceremony that included Sofia's political and religious elite. The opening ceremony took place 31 years after Bulgaria's liberation, which guaranteed equal civil rights to minority religious groups. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: We speak about the early time of the early 20th century, and just to make comparison to what happened at that time in Europe, mainly in Eastern Europe, in Russia with the persecution of Jews there, and on the same time we have in Bulgaria quite a good relation between the regime and the Jewish community. I mean, not everything was so idealistic of course. But in general we can say that the Jews, after the liberation of Bulgaria from the Turkish domination, gained equal rights with other minority groups who lived in Bulgaria, which was guaranteed by the Bulgarian constitution. Means that it actually gave push to the development of the Jewish communities in Bulgaria, on a new ground. The fact that we have communities and synagogues in almost every Bulgarian city, and there was almost 30 communities all around Bulgaria. So the opening ceremony was a remarkable event. The fact that actually, the political elite was invited to [participate] in the ceremony, was a very important sign for the connection between the officials at the time and Bulgarian Jewish community.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>While the opening of the Sofia Synagogue represents the high water mark of the relationship between Jews living in Bulgaria and the rulers of Bulgaria, one of the main tasks of the museum is to represent the historical trace of Jewish people on the Balkan peninsula from ancient Roman period, to the present day. In the museum, this is achieved through a permanent exhibit called Jewish Communities in Bulgaria. A section of the exhibit is an ethnographic display which shows the daily life of the Jews from the late 19th to early 20th centuries and ritual artifacts from synagogues across Bulgaria.</p>

<p>The other permanent exhibition is about Bulgarian Jews during World War II, the topic that Mihaylova says is at the front of mind of most visitors. For a summary of Bulgaria’s early 20th century political history up to World War II, listen to episode 49 of this program, about the Bulgarian Museum of Military History, but here are the important section for this story:</p>

<p>Anti-semitism notably increased across eastern Europe after the introduction of the Nuremberg laws in Nazi Germany in 1935, and by the late 1930s, anti-Jewish propaganda gradually intensified within Bulgaria with Bulgaria's rising economic and political dependence on Nazi Germany.</p>

<p>The exhibition itself  is called The Holocaust and the Rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria, and, as Mihaylova explains, this title is overly simplistic. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: The story of what happened during the years 1941 and 1943. This is the culmination of the story, of the long existence between both two people. The first time when the Jews were tried to be divided from the rest part of society came during the World War II, when Bulgaria connected to Nazi Germany and it began to be connected to Nazi policy. What happened in brief: during the war, it was official policy with special legislation passed by the Bulgarian government after 1941. We treated Jews in a different way on economic, social, culture and political range, with a limitation of their rights, and this law became even more severe in 1942 when already there was an institution which was arranged for trying to organize the life of the Jews and confiscated Jewish property and also starting the organization of the deportation of Bulgarian Jews, which in 1943 started already with the Jews from the so-called new territories of Macedonia and Trace. This part of the story is not easy to explain, because usually it is good to think about the bright side of the story, and to neglect this part. It's important on one hand because this was part of the official policy of the Bulgarian government and this territories was part of the administrative territories of the Bulgarian at that time. Unfortunately, almost 12,000 Jews were deported from the territories of Macedonia and Trace, only to be the first stage, which had to continue with the Jews from Bulgaria, also. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>The Jews from the territories of Macedonia and Trace were sent to Treblinka extermination camp in Poland. But these deportations, intended to be the first of many, would be the last. No other Jews were deported from Bulgaria or Bulgarian-controlled territories. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: But what is important is that when it came to Bulgaria we saw something very unique. Already, when they started discussions of law in 1940, it became clear that it wasn’t going to pass in peace, because there began to be very strong civil opposition against it from the many different circles of the Bulgarian society. It already give a clear sign that the Bulgarian society in general, it was not ready to accept this sort of policy against their Jewish fellows in Bulgaria. We see in 1943 when the plan for deportation started to be clear, even in Bulgaria, it actually faced a very strong opposition, even from the right and from the left and we see this opposition even in the circles of the Bulgarian political majority. On top of it was the vice-chairman of the Bulgarian government, Dimetre Patechiv, who organized this opposition and also managed to put pressure on the government between the crucial time.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>All this civil pressure made the government have to postpone, ultimately indefinitely, the deportations to Nazi extermination camps. While Bulgarian officials remained differential to their German contacts, internally, they delayed and delayed, citing the need for Bulgarian Jews to remain in Bulgaria to work on Bulgarian infrastructure projects.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: Bulgarian example is very unique, and sometimes they try to compare this to the Danish Jews, the Jews there were saved by the locals. But Bulgarian example is the Bulgarian example. It’s a combination of facts. There was the one hand there was policy against Jewish minority, but on the other hand we have full mobilization of civil power in 1943 which became one of the major factors of saving the live of the entire Jewish community who live within the Bulgarian borders during the war. That's very important to say. It's good example and good lesson for us to understand what we can understand from this is what we can learn from this, is that it's actually a very good idea to raise your voice, even when you think that it's actually desperate.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The Holocaust and the Rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria is an example of an exhibit about a topic that can’t be neatly summarized -- and any attempt to tell a positive story without including the deportation of the Jews from the Bulgarian-controlled territories of Macedonia and Trace is wrong. To resist the simple story, or the comfortable narrative, is what we rely on museums for.</p>

<p>Towards the end of the war, the synagogue roof was badly damaged by an American bombing raid on Sofia and the building remained in bad condition for many years. After the war ended Bulgaria was under control of a Socialist government, and many Bulgarian Jews, in fact the vast  majority, immigrated to Israel.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: More than 90% of the 50,000 Jews who live in Bulgaria immigrated to Israel   after the war, and most of the artifacts from the other synagogues were replaced to Sofia, and are exposed to our museum also so this is part of our story to tell, the entire story of Jews in Bulgaria not just from Sofia. During the communist time, the community shrunk to some very crucial number of several thousand people, but it's very important to say that it's not true that everything stopped after the war. Although, of course, the communist regime didn't encourage so much the religious activity,but still there was a small flame which keep the Jews who remained in Bulgaria, but they actually gave the push, after the collapse of the communist regime to try to revive the Jewish life.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Today, the Synagogue is fully active, and the museum on the second floor presents the sweep of Jewish history in Bulgaria. But the museum also offers a strong moral message to visitors through its educational programing. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: I try to say to my audience, which is on one hand tourists from many different countries, mainly from Israel, from the US, from Europe who are guests in Sofia, but on the other we have many students from Jewish high schools, from universities who are actually interested in the topic. For me, the great challenge is to speak before young people and try not just to tell them the story but to ask them questions and try to challenge them to think about the story, if they were on this place and how they could react in this moment. It's not an easy task. Sometimes because we are a small museum, our programs are not so well developed, but we are very limited in staff, but I think this is the only place in Bulgaria where you can hear the full story of the Jewish presence in Bulgaria, with the story of the Bulgarian Jewish [experience] in World War II and till present days. </p>
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<p>While the museum tells the <a href="http://www.sofiasynagogue.com/index.php?content_id=5" rel="nofollow">full story of the Jewish people in Bulgaria</a> from ancient Roman times to today, Yulina Mihaylova of the Jewish Museum of History says that the culmination of the story is the rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria from deportation to Nazi death camps during the Second World War. The museum <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_the_Bulgarian_Jews" rel="nofollow">takes on the complexities of this story</a>, including the fact that not all Jews in Bulgarian-controlled territories were saved from deportation, and uses it to challenge young visitors.</p>

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<p>Topics Discussed:<br>
00:00 Intro<br>
00:14 Jewish Museum of History in Sofia, Bulgaria<br>
01:10 Yulina Mihaylova<br>
01:50 <a href="http://www.sofiasynagogue.com/index.php?content_id=5">The Sofia Synagogue</a><br>
02:10 Jews in Bulgaria in the Early 20th Century<br>
04:00 <a href="http://www.sofiasynagogue.com/index.php?content_id=5">Jews in Bulgaria During World War Two</a><br>
04:50 <em>The Holocaust and the Rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria</em><br>
09:44 Jews in Bulgaria During Communist Times<br>
10:45 Educational Programming Moral Message<br>
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<p>Sometimes in the Museum Archipelago, museums are isolated from other institutions by vast bodies of water, and sometimes, points of interest are clustered in dense island chains.</p>

<p>The Jewish Museum of History in Sofia, Bulgaria is one of the latter. The museum is housed on the second floor of the Sofia Synagogue in the center of Bulgaria's capital, just steps away from an Orthodox Church, and Sofia's main Mosque. This clustering of places of worship -- it's hard to find another example of this in Europe or the rest of the world -- is part of the unique story of Jewish people in Bulgaria. </p>

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  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: It's very unique because it makes this triangle of the three religions. The combination and interaction between the ethnic groups together shows this very rich historical past when the Jews live among the others. It's also part of our unique narrative which we try to say in the museum itself.”</p>
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<p>This is Yulina Mihaylova. </p>

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  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: Hello my name is Yulina Mihaylova, and I'm working for the Jewish Historical Museum in Sofia for the past 15 years. My job combines working with visitors and. Our main task is to represent the history of the Bulgarian Jews back 2000 years. It’s just not the story of the Jewish people. It’s more than it because we try to say the story of the interaction of the Jewish people and the Bulgarians also. </p>
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<p>The Sofia Synagogue is the third largest in Europe. This particular Synagogue, built on the site of earlier Jewish prayer houses, opened in 1909, with a ceremony that included Sofia's political and religious elite. The opening ceremony took place 31 years after Bulgaria's liberation, which guaranteed equal civil rights to minority religious groups. </p>

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  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: We speak about the early time of the early 20th century, and just to make comparison to what happened at that time in Europe, mainly in Eastern Europe, in Russia with the persecution of Jews there, and on the same time we have in Bulgaria quite a good relation between the regime and the Jewish community. I mean, not everything was so idealistic of course. But in general we can say that the Jews, after the liberation of Bulgaria from the Turkish domination, gained equal rights with other minority groups who lived in Bulgaria, which was guaranteed by the Bulgarian constitution. Means that it actually gave push to the development of the Jewish communities in Bulgaria, on a new ground. The fact that we have communities and synagogues in almost every Bulgarian city, and there was almost 30 communities all around Bulgaria. So the opening ceremony was a remarkable event. The fact that actually, the political elite was invited to [participate] in the ceremony, was a very important sign for the connection between the officials at the time and Bulgarian Jewish community.</p>
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<p>While the opening of the Sofia Synagogue represents the high water mark of the relationship between Jews living in Bulgaria and the rulers of Bulgaria, one of the main tasks of the museum is to represent the historical trace of Jewish people on the Balkan peninsula from ancient Roman period, to the present day. In the museum, this is achieved through a permanent exhibit called Jewish Communities in Bulgaria. A section of the exhibit is an ethnographic display which shows the daily life of the Jews from the late 19th to early 20th centuries and ritual artifacts from synagogues across Bulgaria.</p>

<p>The other permanent exhibition is about Bulgarian Jews during World War II, the topic that Mihaylova says is at the front of mind of most visitors. For a summary of Bulgaria’s early 20th century political history up to World War II, listen to episode 49 of this program, about the Bulgarian Museum of Military History, but here are the important section for this story:</p>

<p>Anti-semitism notably increased across eastern Europe after the introduction of the Nuremberg laws in Nazi Germany in 1935, and by the late 1930s, anti-Jewish propaganda gradually intensified within Bulgaria with Bulgaria's rising economic and political dependence on Nazi Germany.</p>

<p>The exhibition itself  is called The Holocaust and the Rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria, and, as Mihaylova explains, this title is overly simplistic. </p>

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  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: The story of what happened during the years 1941 and 1943. This is the culmination of the story, of the long existence between both two people. The first time when the Jews were tried to be divided from the rest part of society came during the World War II, when Bulgaria connected to Nazi Germany and it began to be connected to Nazi policy. What happened in brief: during the war, it was official policy with special legislation passed by the Bulgarian government after 1941. We treated Jews in a different way on economic, social, culture and political range, with a limitation of their rights, and this law became even more severe in 1942 when already there was an institution which was arranged for trying to organize the life of the Jews and confiscated Jewish property and also starting the organization of the deportation of Bulgarian Jews, which in 1943 started already with the Jews from the so-called new territories of Macedonia and Trace. This part of the story is not easy to explain, because usually it is good to think about the bright side of the story, and to neglect this part. It's important on one hand because this was part of the official policy of the Bulgarian government and this territories was part of the administrative territories of the Bulgarian at that time. Unfortunately, almost 12,000 Jews were deported from the territories of Macedonia and Trace, only to be the first stage, which had to continue with the Jews from Bulgaria, also. </p>
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<p>The Jews from the territories of Macedonia and Trace were sent to Treblinka extermination camp in Poland. But these deportations, intended to be the first of many, would be the last. No other Jews were deported from Bulgaria or Bulgarian-controlled territories. </p>

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  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: But what is important is that when it came to Bulgaria we saw something very unique. Already, when they started discussions of law in 1940, it became clear that it wasn’t going to pass in peace, because there began to be very strong civil opposition against it from the many different circles of the Bulgarian society. It already give a clear sign that the Bulgarian society in general, it was not ready to accept this sort of policy against their Jewish fellows in Bulgaria. We see in 1943 when the plan for deportation started to be clear, even in Bulgaria, it actually faced a very strong opposition, even from the right and from the left and we see this opposition even in the circles of the Bulgarian political majority. On top of it was the vice-chairman of the Bulgarian government, Dimetre Patechiv, who organized this opposition and also managed to put pressure on the government between the crucial time.</p>
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<p>All this civil pressure made the government have to postpone, ultimately indefinitely, the deportations to Nazi extermination camps. While Bulgarian officials remained differential to their German contacts, internally, they delayed and delayed, citing the need for Bulgarian Jews to remain in Bulgaria to work on Bulgarian infrastructure projects.</p>

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  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: Bulgarian example is very unique, and sometimes they try to compare this to the Danish Jews, the Jews there were saved by the locals. But Bulgarian example is the Bulgarian example. It’s a combination of facts. There was the one hand there was policy against Jewish minority, but on the other hand we have full mobilization of civil power in 1943 which became one of the major factors of saving the live of the entire Jewish community who live within the Bulgarian borders during the war. That's very important to say. It's good example and good lesson for us to understand what we can understand from this is what we can learn from this, is that it's actually a very good idea to raise your voice, even when you think that it's actually desperate.</p>
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<p>The Holocaust and the Rescue of the Jews in Bulgaria is an example of an exhibit about a topic that can’t be neatly summarized -- and any attempt to tell a positive story without including the deportation of the Jews from the Bulgarian-controlled territories of Macedonia and Trace is wrong. To resist the simple story, or the comfortable narrative, is what we rely on museums for.</p>

<p>Towards the end of the war, the synagogue roof was badly damaged by an American bombing raid on Sofia and the building remained in bad condition for many years. After the war ended Bulgaria was under control of a Socialist government, and many Bulgarian Jews, in fact the vast  majority, immigrated to Israel.</p>

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  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: More than 90% of the 50,000 Jews who live in Bulgaria immigrated to Israel   after the war, and most of the artifacts from the other synagogues were replaced to Sofia, and are exposed to our museum also so this is part of our story to tell, the entire story of Jews in Bulgaria not just from Sofia. During the communist time, the community shrunk to some very crucial number of several thousand people, but it's very important to say that it's not true that everything stopped after the war. Although, of course, the communist regime didn't encourage so much the religious activity,but still there was a small flame which keep the Jews who remained in Bulgaria, but they actually gave the push, after the collapse of the communist regime to try to revive the Jewish life.</p>
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<p>Today, the Synagogue is fully active, and the museum on the second floor presents the sweep of Jewish history in Bulgaria. But the museum also offers a strong moral message to visitors through its educational programing. </p>

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  <p>Yulina Mihaylova: I try to say to my audience, which is on one hand tourists from many different countries, mainly from Israel, from the US, from Europe who are guests in Sofia, but on the other we have many students from Jewish high schools, from universities who are actually interested in the topic. For me, the great challenge is to speak before young people and try not just to tell them the story but to ask them questions and try to challenge them to think about the story, if they were on this place and how they could react in this moment. It's not an easy task. Sometimes because we are a small museum, our programs are not so well developed, but we are very limited in staff, but I think this is the only place in Bulgaria where you can hear the full story of the Jewish presence in Bulgaria, with the story of the Bulgarian Jewish [experience] in World War II and till present days. </p>
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  <title>49. Deyana Kostova Centers ‘The Little Man’ in War at the Bulgarian National Museum of Military History</title>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;The campus of the &lt;a href="http://www.militarymuseum.bg/index-en.html"&gt;Bulgarian National Museum of Military History&lt;/a&gt; in Sofia is defended on all sides by &lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?biw=1246&amp;amp;bih=760&amp;amp;tbm=isch&amp;amp;sa=1&amp;amp;ei=glaNW_rLJcf4_Aau-4SoDg&amp;amp;q=+bulgarian+national+museum+of+military+history&amp;amp;oq=+bulgarian+national+museum+of+military+history&amp;amp;gs_l=img.3...2159.2159..2393...0.0..0.80.80.1......1....1..gws-wiz-img.9ecX2rSNZHk"&gt;a garden of missiles and tanks&lt;/a&gt;. But as Director of Public Relations Deyana Kostova points out, many of the exhibits inside focus on the consequences of war rather than the tools of warfare.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One of these exhibits, called &lt;a href="http://www.militarymuseum.bg/Pages/News/En/news_20_noemvri_2017-en.html"&gt;'The Little Man in the Great War'&lt;/a&gt;, explores the Bulgarian World War I experience through overarching emotions. In this episode, Kostova gives a tour of the exhibit, explains how the museum contextualizes Bulgarian and world history, and describes the mission of the museum to present history from multiple points of view.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;br&gt;00:00: Intro
&lt;br&gt;00:40: Diana Kostova, Director of Public Relations
&lt;br&gt;01:40: Bulgaria in World War I
&lt;br&gt;02:05: 'The Little Man in the Great War'
&lt;br&gt;05:28: Vasil Levski's Hair
&lt;br&gt;06:34: Bulgaria in World War II
&lt;br&gt;08:00: Lopsided History During The Period Of Socialist Rule
&lt;br&gt;08:25: The Mission of the Museum To Present History From Multiple Points of View
&lt;br&gt;09:09: &lt;a href="http://www.museumarchipelago.com/contact"&gt;Museum Archipelago’s 50th Episode: Submit Your Audio&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;This episode was recorded at the National Museum of Military History in Sofia, Bulgaria on June 8th, 2018.&lt;/i&gt;
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&lt;h3&gt;Transcript&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Below is a transcript of Museum Archipelago episode 49. Museum Archipelago is produced for the ear and the only the audio of the episode is canonical. For more information on the people and ideas in the episode, refer to the links above.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Intro]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t really know how I’m supposed to feel at a military museum, particularly those that have gardens of comically oversized missiles and tanks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Bulgarian National Museum of Military History is one of these museums, but Bulgaria is a country that has spent much of its recent military history buffeted and whiplashed by bigger powers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And that makes for a different experience wandering through these giant tools of war.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Deyana Kostova: Hello, my name is Diana Kostova, and I am director of museum marketing, public relations [at the] National Museum of Military History. The museum was established in 1916, in the course of the first world war. So the first exhibitions that came to the museum were directed straight from the front line to the museum. The first one was probably not so interesting, it is a document, but the fifth one was a crashed airplane, actually, and it is displayed in our permanent exhibition even nowadays and it can been seen as a way to remember these horrific days of the war.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The time frame of museum’s modern galleries, a campus of buildings in the middle of that garden of military hardware, actually begins much earlier than World War I, in the 4th millennium BCE. The museum displays the sweep of Bulgarian history since then, in which the Balkans have played host to a dizzying array of battles, conquests, rebellion, and centuries of rule by the Ottoman Empire.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By 1914, Bulgaria, liberated from Ottoman rule, had recently fought in the Second Balkan war and was about to enter World War I.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Deyana Kostova: Here we entered the First World War. It turned out that we entered on the wrong side, because at this moment Germany was telling us that choosing Germany would be the thing that would give us justice and will give us these territories that we lost in the Second Balkan War.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Instead of displaying the sweep of the events World War I, an exhibit called the Little Man in the Great War divides the Bulgarian First World War experience into four overarching  emotions: hope, what you hold onto, self-preservation, and collapse.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Deyana Kostova: So this is our previously-launched exhibition. It is called the Little Man in the Great War. And the idea was to show the fate of the ordinary people, the small people who actually make the army, because the army is not the commanders in chief, it is not the generals, it is the numerous people without names, who actually perished at the battlefields, and they all had families, and they all had hopes, and the idea was to show the emotions during the war. So here we begin, with the very first emotion when the war was declared: it was the hope. The hope that this war was not going to be a long one. The hope that choosing Germany will bring justice, the hope that at the end, we will be victorious, we will have what is supposed to be ours, we will go back to our homes alive at the end. This was probably the most important.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The next emotion is hard to translate into English.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Deyana Kostova: There isn’t an equivalent in English. When I try to explain it, it means the things that you hold to. We wanted to show that even though it was a war, the life didn’t stop. There were weddings during the wartime. People were writing letters to their loved ones.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Then comes self-preservation.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Deyana Kostova: It was all the ways the soldiers had to keep themselves sane. The friendship that formed in the front lines. They tried to do these very temporary houses to resemble their homes, they were planting flowers, here you have watermelon at the front line, some of them had pets, like this small dog. They were making theaters at the front line, just to keep the spirit of the soldiers a bit higher.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;And finally, collapse.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Deyana Kostova: We finish with the collapse: the collapse of all illusions, the collapse of all hope, the entire cynicism of the war. Here is a young beautiful boy. In our permanent exhibition you might see him again. There he is displayed as a symbol of the Bulgarian heroism, a symbol that even the youngest wanted to carry guns and to defend what was right for Bulgaria. But here we try to show it in a different perspective. To say okay, but this is a boy, this is a child. It is in the front line. It is not how it is supposed to be. We have all these eyes that are looking at us with some kind of a blame, that we as a humanity made this happen. It’s not a happy exhibition.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The Little Man in the Great War is really effective at telling a historical narrative through emotions. It works because you as the visitor are experiencing the emotions in chronological order, the order that ordinary Bulgarians would have felt them during the war. It’s a powerful contrast to the very inhuman tanks and missiles just outside&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Other galleries in the museum also highlight the sentimental and emotional in the middle of conflict. Bulgaria fought for its liberation in the 19th century against the Ottoman Empire. One of the chief strategists (and martyrs) of the Bulgarian revolution is a man named, Vassil Levski, widely considered to be a national hero.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Deyana Kostova: Our museum displays his hair, which is kind of strange probably from a foreign perspective, but he was a monk, and it was him who cut off his hair when he decided that he doesn’t want to serve to god anymore, he wants to serve his people, to their freedom. So he cut off his hair and gave it to his mother and said, “you should keep my hair because one day probably I wouldn’t have a grave, and you may need to bury my hair.” And it is what actually happened. She didn’t know where he was buried, but she gave his hair to the county. And now there are so many little children who come to the museum and paying respect to this item.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Other galleries deal with more recent history, like the Bulgarian experience in World War II, which Kostova describes in similar language to World War I.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Deyana Kostova: And once again we chose Germany. We didn’t actually have choice. We made this exhibition three years ago now about the Second World War and we named it the War That We Could Not Avoid. The idea was that this was the war that we never had the chance to choose whether to participate or not in. Because at the moment we signed our participation in the tripartite pact, German troops were already marching inside Bulgaria. So it was either “with us or under us.” This Second World War turned out to be the point that changed everything in our history, because only three years later in 1944 another army was at our border. It was the Soviet army. Once again we didn’t have the choice. We were trying to declare neutrality again but it wasn’t an option at the end of the war, and we didn’t want to declare war to Germany because many many Bulgarians soldiers were surrounded by Germans, and the Soviets were marching on our streets three years after the Germans. At this moment, the political situation changed as well. And it changed the political regime to communist one, later on to socialistic one.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;It’s important to remember that the official narratives of Bulgaria’s entire military history were pretty lopsided during the socialist period, up until the political collapse about thirty years ago. Since then, the country, and the museum, has had much more room for nuance in describing the motives of historical actors. The missiles and other pieces of military hardware are still there, but so are more emotional historical narratives.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Deyana Kostova: Our main mission in the museum nowadays is to try to tell the story with all the versions that are possible to be displayed. When you learn when you are young that there are different points of view of history, it is much easier when you grow up. These days, especially young people don’t have an idea of what war is, they think it is something cool that it is done for the right causes, and if you do it for the right cause, which is your right cause of course, then you’re a hero, you’re very brave. They are missing all of this, and we just wanted to show it.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>One of these exhibits, called <a href="http://www.militarymuseum.bg/Pages/News/En/news_20_noemvri_2017-en.html">'The Little Man in the Great War'</a>, explores the Bulgarian World War I experience through overarching emotions. In this episode, Kostova gives a tour of the exhibit, explains how the museum contextualizes Bulgarian and world history, and describes the mission of the museum to present history from multiple points of view.</p>

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<p>Topics Discussed:
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<br>00:00: Intro
<br>00:40: Diana Kostova, Director of Public Relations
<br>01:40: Bulgaria in World War I
<br>02:05: 'The Little Man in the Great War'
<br>05:28: Vasil Levski's Hair
<br>06:34: Bulgaria in World War II
<br>08:00: Lopsided History During The Period Of Socialist Rule
<br>08:25: The Mission of the Museum To Present History From Multiple Points of View
<br>09:09: <a href="http://www.museumarchipelago.com/contact">Museum Archipelago’s 50th Episode: Submit Your Audio</a>
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<i>This episode was recorded at the National Museum of Military History in Sofia, Bulgaria on June 8th, 2018.</i>
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<h3>Transcript</h3>
<p><em>Below is a transcript of Museum Archipelago episode 49. Museum Archipelago is produced for the ear and the only the audio of the episode is canonical. For more information on the people and ideas in the episode, refer to the links above.</em></p>
<p>[Intro]</p>
<p>I don’t really know how I’m supposed to feel at a military museum, particularly those that have gardens of comically oversized missiles and tanks.</p>
<p>The Bulgarian National Museum of Military History is one of these museums, but Bulgaria is a country that has spent much of its recent military history buffeted and whiplashed by bigger powers.</p>
<p>And that makes for a different experience wandering through these giant tools of war.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: Hello, my name is Diana Kostova, and I am director of museum marketing, public relations [at the] National Museum of Military History. The museum was established in 1916, in the course of the first world war. So the first exhibitions that came to the museum were directed straight from the front line to the museum. The first one was probably not so interesting, it is a document, but the fifth one was a crashed airplane, actually, and it is displayed in our permanent exhibition even nowadays and it can been seen as a way to remember these horrific days of the war.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The time frame of museum’s modern galleries, a campus of buildings in the middle of that garden of military hardware, actually begins much earlier than World War I, in the 4th millennium BCE. The museum displays the sweep of Bulgarian history since then, in which the Balkans have played host to a dizzying array of battles, conquests, rebellion, and centuries of rule by the Ottoman Empire.</p>
<p>By 1914, Bulgaria, liberated from Ottoman rule, had recently fought in the Second Balkan war and was about to enter World War I.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: Here we entered the First World War. It turned out that we entered on the wrong side, because at this moment Germany was telling us that choosing Germany would be the thing that would give us justice and will give us these territories that we lost in the Second Balkan War.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Instead of displaying the sweep of the events World War I, an exhibit called the Little Man in the Great War divides the Bulgarian First World War experience into four overarching  emotions: hope, what you hold onto, self-preservation, and collapse.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: So this is our previously-launched exhibition. It is called the Little Man in the Great War. And the idea was to show the fate of the ordinary people, the small people who actually make the army, because the army is not the commanders in chief, it is not the generals, it is the numerous people without names, who actually perished at the battlefields, and they all had families, and they all had hopes, and the idea was to show the emotions during the war. So here we begin, with the very first emotion when the war was declared: it was the hope. The hope that this war was not going to be a long one. The hope that choosing Germany will bring justice, the hope that at the end, we will be victorious, we will have what is supposed to be ours, we will go back to our homes alive at the end. This was probably the most important.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The next emotion is hard to translate into English.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: There isn’t an equivalent in English. When I try to explain it, it means the things that you hold to. We wanted to show that even though it was a war, the life didn’t stop. There were weddings during the wartime. People were writing letters to their loved ones.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Then comes self-preservation.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: It was all the ways the soldiers had to keep themselves sane. The friendship that formed in the front lines. They tried to do these very temporary houses to resemble their homes, they were planting flowers, here you have watermelon at the front line, some of them had pets, like this small dog. They were making theaters at the front line, just to keep the spirit of the soldiers a bit higher.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>And finally, collapse.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: We finish with the collapse: the collapse of all illusions, the collapse of all hope, the entire cynicism of the war. Here is a young beautiful boy. In our permanent exhibition you might see him again. There he is displayed as a symbol of the Bulgarian heroism, a symbol that even the youngest wanted to carry guns and to defend what was right for Bulgaria. But here we try to show it in a different perspective. To say okay, but this is a boy, this is a child. It is in the front line. It is not how it is supposed to be. We have all these eyes that are looking at us with some kind of a blame, that we as a humanity made this happen. It’s not a happy exhibition.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The Little Man in the Great War is really effective at telling a historical narrative through emotions. It works because you as the visitor are experiencing the emotions in chronological order, the order that ordinary Bulgarians would have felt them during the war. It’s a powerful contrast to the very inhuman tanks and missiles just outside</p>
<p>Other galleries in the museum also highlight the sentimental and emotional in the middle of conflict. Bulgaria fought for its liberation in the 19th century against the Ottoman Empire. One of the chief strategists (and martyrs) of the Bulgarian revolution is a man named, Vassil Levski, widely considered to be a national hero.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: Our museum displays his hair, which is kind of strange probably from a foreign perspective, but he was a monk, and it was him who cut off his hair when he decided that he doesn’t want to serve to god anymore, he wants to serve his people, to their freedom. So he cut off his hair and gave it to his mother and said, “you should keep my hair because one day probably I wouldn’t have a grave, and you may need to bury my hair.” And it is what actually happened. She didn’t know where he was buried, but she gave his hair to the county. And now there are so many little children who come to the museum and paying respect to this item.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Other galleries deal with more recent history, like the Bulgarian experience in World War II, which Kostova describes in similar language to World War I.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: And once again we chose Germany. We didn’t actually have choice. We made this exhibition three years ago now about the Second World War and we named it the War That We Could Not Avoid. The idea was that this was the war that we never had the chance to choose whether to participate or not in. Because at the moment we signed our participation in the tripartite pact, German troops were already marching inside Bulgaria. So it was either “with us or under us.” This Second World War turned out to be the point that changed everything in our history, because only three years later in 1944 another army was at our border. It was the Soviet army. Once again we didn’t have the choice. We were trying to declare neutrality again but it wasn’t an option at the end of the war, and we didn’t want to declare war to Germany because many many Bulgarians soldiers were surrounded by Germans, and the Soviets were marching on our streets three years after the Germans. At this moment, the political situation changed as well. And it changed the political regime to communist one, later on to socialistic one.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>It’s important to remember that the official narratives of Bulgaria’s entire military history were pretty lopsided during the socialist period, up until the political collapse about thirty years ago. Since then, the country, and the museum, has had much more room for nuance in describing the motives of historical actors. The missiles and other pieces of military hardware are still there, but so are more emotional historical narratives.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: Our main mission in the museum nowadays is to try to tell the story with all the versions that are possible to be displayed. When you learn when you are young that there are different points of view of history, it is much easier when you grow up. These days, especially young people don’t have an idea of what war is, they think it is something cool that it is done for the right causes, and if you do it for the right cause, which is your right cause of course, then you’re a hero, you’re very brave. They are missing all of this, and we just wanted to show it.</p>
</blockquote>
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    <![CDATA[<p>The campus of the <a href="http://www.militarymuseum.bg/index-en.html">Bulgarian National Museum of Military History</a> in Sofia is defended on all sides by <a href="https://www.google.com/search?biw=1246&bih=760&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=glaNW_rLJcf4_Aau-4SoDg&q=+bulgarian+national+museum+of+military+history&oq=+bulgarian+national+museum+of+military+history&gs_l=img.3...2159.2159..2393...0.0..0.80.80.1......1....1..gws-wiz-img.9ecX2rSNZHk">a garden of missiles and tanks</a>. But as Director of Public Relations Deyana Kostova points out, many of the exhibits inside focus on the consequences of war rather than the tools of warfare.</p>

<p>One of these exhibits, called <a href="http://www.militarymuseum.bg/Pages/News/En/news_20_noemvri_2017-en.html">'The Little Man in the Great War'</a>, explores the Bulgarian World War I experience through overarching emotions. In this episode, Kostova gives a tour of the exhibit, explains how the museum contextualizes Bulgarian and world history, and describes the mission of the museum to present history from multiple points of view.</p>

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<br>00:00: Intro
<br>00:40: Diana Kostova, Director of Public Relations
<br>01:40: Bulgaria in World War I
<br>02:05: 'The Little Man in the Great War'
<br>05:28: Vasil Levski's Hair
<br>06:34: Bulgaria in World War II
<br>08:00: Lopsided History During The Period Of Socialist Rule
<br>08:25: The Mission of the Museum To Present History From Multiple Points of View
<br>09:09: <a href="http://www.museumarchipelago.com/contact">Museum Archipelago’s 50th Episode: Submit Your Audio</a>
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<i>This episode was recorded at the National Museum of Military History in Sofia, Bulgaria on June 8th, 2018.</i>
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<h3>Transcript</h3>
<p><em>Below is a transcript of Museum Archipelago episode 49. Museum Archipelago is produced for the ear and the only the audio of the episode is canonical. For more information on the people and ideas in the episode, refer to the links above.</em></p>
<p>[Intro]</p>
<p>I don’t really know how I’m supposed to feel at a military museum, particularly those that have gardens of comically oversized missiles and tanks.</p>
<p>The Bulgarian National Museum of Military History is one of these museums, but Bulgaria is a country that has spent much of its recent military history buffeted and whiplashed by bigger powers.</p>
<p>And that makes for a different experience wandering through these giant tools of war.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: Hello, my name is Diana Kostova, and I am director of museum marketing, public relations [at the] National Museum of Military History. The museum was established in 1916, in the course of the first world war. So the first exhibitions that came to the museum were directed straight from the front line to the museum. The first one was probably not so interesting, it is a document, but the fifth one was a crashed airplane, actually, and it is displayed in our permanent exhibition even nowadays and it can been seen as a way to remember these horrific days of the war.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The time frame of museum’s modern galleries, a campus of buildings in the middle of that garden of military hardware, actually begins much earlier than World War I, in the 4th millennium BCE. The museum displays the sweep of Bulgarian history since then, in which the Balkans have played host to a dizzying array of battles, conquests, rebellion, and centuries of rule by the Ottoman Empire.</p>
<p>By 1914, Bulgaria, liberated from Ottoman rule, had recently fought in the Second Balkan war and was about to enter World War I.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: Here we entered the First World War. It turned out that we entered on the wrong side, because at this moment Germany was telling us that choosing Germany would be the thing that would give us justice and will give us these territories that we lost in the Second Balkan War.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Instead of displaying the sweep of the events World War I, an exhibit called the Little Man in the Great War divides the Bulgarian First World War experience into four overarching  emotions: hope, what you hold onto, self-preservation, and collapse.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: So this is our previously-launched exhibition. It is called the Little Man in the Great War. And the idea was to show the fate of the ordinary people, the small people who actually make the army, because the army is not the commanders in chief, it is not the generals, it is the numerous people without names, who actually perished at the battlefields, and they all had families, and they all had hopes, and the idea was to show the emotions during the war. So here we begin, with the very first emotion when the war was declared: it was the hope. The hope that this war was not going to be a long one. The hope that choosing Germany will bring justice, the hope that at the end, we will be victorious, we will have what is supposed to be ours, we will go back to our homes alive at the end. This was probably the most important.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The next emotion is hard to translate into English.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: There isn’t an equivalent in English. When I try to explain it, it means the things that you hold to. We wanted to show that even though it was a war, the life didn’t stop. There were weddings during the wartime. People were writing letters to their loved ones.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Then comes self-preservation.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: It was all the ways the soldiers had to keep themselves sane. The friendship that formed in the front lines. They tried to do these very temporary houses to resemble their homes, they were planting flowers, here you have watermelon at the front line, some of them had pets, like this small dog. They were making theaters at the front line, just to keep the spirit of the soldiers a bit higher.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>And finally, collapse.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: We finish with the collapse: the collapse of all illusions, the collapse of all hope, the entire cynicism of the war. Here is a young beautiful boy. In our permanent exhibition you might see him again. There he is displayed as a symbol of the Bulgarian heroism, a symbol that even the youngest wanted to carry guns and to defend what was right for Bulgaria. But here we try to show it in a different perspective. To say okay, but this is a boy, this is a child. It is in the front line. It is not how it is supposed to be. We have all these eyes that are looking at us with some kind of a blame, that we as a humanity made this happen. It’s not a happy exhibition.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The Little Man in the Great War is really effective at telling a historical narrative through emotions. It works because you as the visitor are experiencing the emotions in chronological order, the order that ordinary Bulgarians would have felt them during the war. It’s a powerful contrast to the very inhuman tanks and missiles just outside</p>
<p>Other galleries in the museum also highlight the sentimental and emotional in the middle of conflict. Bulgaria fought for its liberation in the 19th century against the Ottoman Empire. One of the chief strategists (and martyrs) of the Bulgarian revolution is a man named, Vassil Levski, widely considered to be a national hero.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: Our museum displays his hair, which is kind of strange probably from a foreign perspective, but he was a monk, and it was him who cut off his hair when he decided that he doesn’t want to serve to god anymore, he wants to serve his people, to their freedom. So he cut off his hair and gave it to his mother and said, “you should keep my hair because one day probably I wouldn’t have a grave, and you may need to bury my hair.” And it is what actually happened. She didn’t know where he was buried, but she gave his hair to the county. And now there are so many little children who come to the museum and paying respect to this item.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Other galleries deal with more recent history, like the Bulgarian experience in World War II, which Kostova describes in similar language to World War I.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: And once again we chose Germany. We didn’t actually have choice. We made this exhibition three years ago now about the Second World War and we named it the War That We Could Not Avoid. The idea was that this was the war that we never had the chance to choose whether to participate or not in. Because at the moment we signed our participation in the tripartite pact, German troops were already marching inside Bulgaria. So it was either “with us or under us.” This Second World War turned out to be the point that changed everything in our history, because only three years later in 1944 another army was at our border. It was the Soviet army. Once again we didn’t have the choice. We were trying to declare neutrality again but it wasn’t an option at the end of the war, and we didn’t want to declare war to Germany because many many Bulgarians soldiers were surrounded by Germans, and the Soviets were marching on our streets three years after the Germans. At this moment, the political situation changed as well. And it changed the political regime to communist one, later on to socialistic one.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>It’s important to remember that the official narratives of Bulgaria’s entire military history were pretty lopsided during the socialist period, up until the political collapse about thirty years ago. Since then, the country, and the museum, has had much more room for nuance in describing the motives of historical actors. The missiles and other pieces of military hardware are still there, but so are more emotional historical narratives.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Deyana Kostova: Our main mission in the museum nowadays is to try to tell the story with all the versions that are possible to be displayed. When you learn when you are young that there are different points of view of history, it is much easier when you grow up. These days, especially young people don’t have an idea of what war is, they think it is something cool that it is done for the right causes, and if you do it for the right cause, which is your right cause of course, then you’re a hero, you’re very brave. They are missing all of this, and we just wanted to show it.</p>
</blockquote>
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  <title>47. Buzludzha is Deteriorating. Dora Ivanova Wants To Turn It Into A Museum.</title>
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  <author>Ian Elsner</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>High in the Bulgarian mountains, Buzludzha monument is deteriorating.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;High in the Bulgarian mountains, Buzludzha monument is deteriorating. Commemorating &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitar_Blagoev"&gt;early Bulgarian Marxists&lt;/a&gt;, it was designed to emphasize &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7I65bs_HH4"&gt;the power and modernity of the Bulgarian Communist Party&lt;/a&gt;. Buzludzha is now at the center of a debate over how &lt;a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/archives/"&gt;Bulgaria remembers its past&lt;/a&gt;. Some people want to destroy it, some people want to restore it to its former glory, but Bulgarian architect Dora Ivanova &lt;a href="http://www.bta.bg/en/c/NW/id/1215789"&gt;has a better idea&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ivanova wants to turn it into a museum, and she founded &lt;a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/"&gt;the Buzludzha Project Foundation&lt;/a&gt; to do exactly that. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Ivanova describes how the city of Berlin inspired her plan for the preservation of Buzludzha, how to preserve the past without glorifying it, and &lt;a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/news/"&gt;the next steps to making her plan a reality&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Topics Discussed&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00 Intro&lt;br&gt;00:15 &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7I65bs_HH4"&gt;Buzludzha's Opening Ceremony&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;01:04 Buzludzha Today&lt;br&gt;01:38 Buzludzha As Propaganda&lt;br&gt;02:00 &lt;a href="http://www.bta.bg/en/c/NW/id/1215789"&gt;Dora Ivanova&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;02:20 &lt;a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/archives/"&gt;"The Cathedral of Socialism"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;02:45 Ian's Buzludzha Visit&lt;br&gt;03:30 &lt;a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/"&gt;Ivanova on Perserving Buzludzha&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;04:22 &lt;a href="http://museumarchipelago.com/index"&gt;What To Do With Old Monuments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;04:59 &lt;a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/"&gt;Ivanova's Museum Proposal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;06:20 Tower Elevator&lt;br&gt;07:05 Next Steps&lt;br&gt;07:56 Inspiration From The City of Berlin&lt;br&gt;09:22 &lt;a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/"&gt;The Buzludzha Project Foundation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;09:37 Outro - &lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/museumarchipelago"&gt;Join Club Archipelago&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;[Intro]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In 1981, on top of a mountain in the middle of Bulgaria, high-ranking members of the Bulgarian communist party gathered to celebrate the opening of a new monument. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The monument, called Buzludzha Memorial House, was erected here to commemorate the 90 year anniversary of the first illegal meeting of Bulgarian Marxists. The communist dictator of Bulgaria, Todor Zhivkov, dedicated the monument. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Audio of Zhivkov’s speech in Bulgarian] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Let the pathways leading here, never fall into disrepair,” he said. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, it did fall into disrepair. Eight years after opening, Todor Zhivkov was deposed from office by his own party, and soon after the rule of the Bulgarian Communist Party crumbled.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Buzludzha is in an eerie state of decay. I’ve never seen anything like it. It’s mostly in the shape of a flying saucer — an enormous round disc of concrete. If a particular alien culture had a fetish for brutalism, this would be their spaceport. Rising out of the back of the saucer is a tower, 230 ft high, and flanked by two red stars. The communist party claimed that the red stars, illuminated at night by spotlights, could be seen from as far away as the Romanian border in the north, and the Greek border to the south.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Dora Ivanova: It was on purpose built like this. It was built to impress. It was built as part of the political propaganda and education as they called it during this time. It’s shape looks like a UFO, actually. This is also on purpose because it had to show how the socialist idea is contemporary, it’s the future.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;This is Dora Ivanova. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Dora Ivanova: Hello, my name is Dora Ivanova, and I am the founder of the Buzledzha Project Foundation, which aims to preserve the Buzludzha monument. The first time I visited Buzledga was in 2014. I was amazed. It’s a really powerful place. It felt like being in a cathedral. The cathedral of socialism, I’ll call it. I found that it is in not that bad condition, that it can still be saved. I was thinking that it is defiantly worth saving. But later, with my next visits, I got more sad and  sadder about the condition. Seeing every time that the condition of the construction is worse and worse, it is really hard for me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I visited Buzledzha in the summer of 2018. The glass is gone from its windows, the red stars have been shot at and smashed, and there are worrying holes in the concrete structure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The monument has been left to decay — mostly sitting in limbo as the Bulgarian socialist party and the Bulgarian government argue over what to do with it. The only new development was that in January of 2018, a guard has been posted at the site to prevent people from entering and seeing the atrium or the crumbling socialist mosaics inside. He said he was not allowed to do an interview. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both Ivanova and I are too young to have lived under Socialism in Bulgaria directly. My association with that period of time has been almost exclusively with the old monuments scattered around the country.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dora Ivanova: In my opinion, the building should be preserved in its present condition. It defiantly should not be restored. To restore it would restore its meaning, and for many people it means to restore the glory of the socialist party. And this is defiantly something we don’t want to do. Many other people want it to turn into something different or imagine having a different function. But I think Buzledzha is interesting with what it is, what it stands for, and what it has already. I don’t think we need to put additional meaning or function to it. If we explain what is already there, if we explain the history which is behind this structure, this is the most powerful and meaningful solution.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Museum Archipelago has explored the theme of what to do with these old monuments before, particularly monuments that are symbols of repressive ideologies. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Episodes 5 and 35, about Stalinworld in Lithuania and The Museum of Socialist Art in the Bulgaria deal with these issues directly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But Buzledza is such an extreme example, and the debate around it, as far as I have heard, ether centers around completely destroying it or returning it to its former glory. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ivanova has a different idea. After visiting for the first time, she knew that she wanted to devote her Master’s thesis to an in-depth proposal to transform the site into a museum.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dora Ivanova: My proposal is to explain the ideology in a very powerful way. To explain all the mosaics, and they are different images. If they are all presented in a very objective and critical way, this will give an understanding of the whole period. And there are aspects like the culture and the role of the women in this period that can be explained to the public. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the underground levels, they can be a gallery that explains the history of the monument itself. Starting with the history of the place, the planning process, the construction, which was amazing achievement. Also how the building was used, why it was abandoned, how it was destroyed, and hopefully, how it was preserved.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The proposal works for me because it uses the space as it is. The building was built as a gathering space — and in addition to the interpretive elements, Ivanova envisions that the interior atrium, which seats about 400 people, can still be used for cultural and scientific events. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dora Ivanova: The only thing I would like to add to this building is a glass outside elevator that can bring the visitors to the top of the tower. There is a 70 meters tower on the top of the mountain and there is a wonderful view from there. This is the only addition. I really strive to keep it intact. This is a proposal to add an observation deck to the top of the spire. From there, people could enjoy the wonderful view.]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Project which began as Ivanova’s master’s thesis seems to be gaining steam. Ivanova says that she has come to the conclusion that the best way to save Buzludzha is  to harness the interest of the site that comes from outside Bulgaria. Just recently, the site has been recognized by Europa Nostra – Europe’s leading heritage preservation organization, as one of the seven most endangered heritage sites in europe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dora Ivanova: And with this, it’s a win, actually. A rescue mission of European experts that will come to Bulgaria and will make a report and expertise us about the building and how it can be preserved. It is very important is to do a structural survey and a business plan and we need finances for that. But of course, all of this is at a very high political level and it is a political decision and I really hope it can be resolved soon. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The site is truly amazing, even as a ruin. But I really want to visit the Buzludzha that Ivonva proposed. Bulgaria doesn’t have an intertrprive museum that explains the year of Socialism. I can think of no better place to put it than in one of that periods most daring symbols right in the heart of the country.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dora Ivanova: I guess I was inspired by Berlin, which is the city of dark history, the city of division and of the Second World War and the cold war. We have all the evidences here. What if Berlin decides to demolish all that and to say it never happened? I think that is not a good solution. I am very inspired by the way they present that for education and how people are first knowing their past and second presenting it to the others. And this attracts so many tourists and this makes Berlin what it is now. I really would like to take this attitude of knowing, understanding, educating, and try to implement such a project in Bulgaria where, it is a difficult past, and it is traumatic for many people, it is still memory and not history, but now is the time to action before the evidence is demolished and until people still remember it and still can write history from a personal view. Buzludzha can be this place. It is already the place that shows the problem. It think and I hope that it can become the place that shows the solution of the problem. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can find more about the Buzludzha Project Foundation, and see the pictures of what it is now, and renderings of what it might look like, at buzludzha-monument.com/project. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Outro]&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>High in the Bulgarian mountains, Buzludzha monument is deteriorating. Commemorating&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitar_Blagoev">early Bulgarian Marxists</a>, it was designed to emphasize&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7I65bs_HH4">the power and modernity of the Bulgarian Communist Party</a>. Buzludzha is now at the center of a debate over how&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/archives/">Bulgaria remembers its past</a>. Some people want to destroy it, some people want to restore it to its former glory, but Bulgarian architect Dora Ivanova&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bta.bg/en/c/NW/id/1215789">has a better idea</a>.<br><br>Ivanova wants to turn it into a museum, and she founded&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/">the Buzludzha Project Foundation</a>&nbsp;to do exactly that.&nbsp;<br><br>In this episode, Ivanova describes how the city of Berlin inspired her plan for the preservation of Buzludzha, how to preserve the past without glorifying it, and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/news/">the next steps to making her plan a reality</a>.<br>

<h3>Topics Discussed</h3><p>00:00 Intro<br>00:15&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7I65bs_HH4">Buzludzha's Opening Ceremony</a><br>01:04 Buzludzha Today<br>01:38 Buzludzha As Propaganda<br>02:00&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bta.bg/en/c/NW/id/1215789">Dora Ivanova</a><br>02:20&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/archives/">"The Cathedral of Socialism"</a><br>02:45 Ian's Buzludzha Visit<br>03:30&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/">Ivanova on Perserving Buzludzha</a><br>04:22&nbsp;<a href="http://museumarchipelago.com/index">What To Do With Old Monuments</a><br>04:59&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/">Ivanova's Museum Proposal</a><br>06:20 Tower Elevator<br>07:05 Next Steps<br>07:56 Inspiration From The City of Berlin<br>09:22&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/">The Buzludzha Project Foundation</a><br>09:37 Outro -&nbsp;<a href="https://www.patreon.com/museumarchipelago">Join Club Archipelago</a></p>

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<p>[Intro]</p>
<p>In 1981, on top of a mountain in the middle of Bulgaria, high-ranking members of the Bulgarian communist party gathered to celebrate the opening of a new monument. </p>
<p>The monument, called Buzludzha Memorial House, was erected here to commemorate the 90 year anniversary of the first illegal meeting of Bulgarian Marxists. The communist dictator of Bulgaria, Todor Zhivkov, dedicated the monument. </p>
<p>[Audio of Zhivkov’s speech in Bulgarian] </p>
<p>“Let the pathways leading here, never fall into disrepair,” he said. </p>
<p>Of course, it did fall into disrepair. Eight years after opening, Todor Zhivkov was deposed from office by his own party, and soon after the rule of the Bulgarian Communist Party crumbled.</p>
<p>Buzludzha is in an eerie state of decay. I’ve never seen anything like it. It’s mostly in the shape of a flying saucer — an enormous round disc of concrete. If a particular alien culture had a fetish for brutalism, this would be their spaceport. Rising out of the back of the saucer is a tower, 230 ft high, and flanked by two red stars. The communist party claimed that the red stars, illuminated at night by spotlights, could be seen from as far away as the Romanian border in the north, and the Greek border to the south.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: It was on purpose built like this. It was built to impress. It was built as part of the political propaganda and education as they called it during this time. It’s shape looks like a UFO, actually. This is also on purpose because it had to show how the socialist idea is contemporary, it’s the future.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This is Dora Ivanova. </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: Hello, my name is Dora Ivanova, and I am the founder of the Buzledzha Project Foundation, which aims to preserve the Buzludzha monument. The first time I visited Buzledga was in 2014. I was amazed. It’s a really powerful place. It felt like being in a cathedral. The cathedral of socialism, I’ll call it. I found that it is in not that bad condition, that it can still be saved. I was thinking that it is defiantly worth saving. But later, with my next visits, I got more sad and  sadder about the condition. Seeing every time that the condition of the construction is worse and worse, it is really hard for me.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I visited Buzledzha in the summer of 2018. The glass is gone from its windows, the red stars have been shot at and smashed, and there are worrying holes in the concrete structure.</p>
<p>The monument has been left to decay — mostly sitting in limbo as the Bulgarian socialist party and the Bulgarian government argue over what to do with it. The only new development was that in January of 2018, a guard has been posted at the site to prevent people from entering and seeing the atrium or the crumbling socialist mosaics inside. He said he was not allowed to do an interview. </p>
<p>Both Ivanova and I are too young to have lived under Socialism in Bulgaria directly. My association with that period of time has been almost exclusively with the old monuments scattered around the country.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: In my opinion, the building should be preserved in its present condition. It defiantly should not be restored. To restore it would restore its meaning, and for many people it means to restore the glory of the socialist party. And this is defiantly something we don’t want to do. Many other people want it to turn into something different or imagine having a different function. But I think Buzledzha is interesting with what it is, what it stands for, and what it has already. I don’t think we need to put additional meaning or function to it. If we explain what is already there, if we explain the history which is behind this structure, this is the most powerful and meaningful solution.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Museum Archipelago has explored the theme of what to do with these old monuments before, particularly monuments that are symbols of repressive ideologies. </p>
<p>Episodes 5 and 35, about Stalinworld in Lithuania and The Museum of Socialist Art in the Bulgaria deal with these issues directly.</p>
<p>But Buzledza is such an extreme example, and the debate around it, as far as I have heard, ether centers around completely destroying it or returning it to its former glory. </p>
<p>Ivanova has a different idea. After visiting for the first time, she knew that she wanted to devote her Master’s thesis to an in-depth proposal to transform the site into a museum.  </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: My proposal is to explain the ideology in a very powerful way. To explain all the mosaics, and they are different images. If they are all presented in a very objective and critical way, this will give an understanding of the whole period. And there are aspects like the culture and the role of the women in this period that can be explained to the public. </p>
<p>In the underground levels, they can be a gallery that explains the history of the monument itself. Starting with the history of the place, the planning process, the construction, which was amazing achievement. Also how the building was used, why it was abandoned, how it was destroyed, and hopefully, how it was preserved.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The proposal works for me because it uses the space as it is. The building was built as a gathering space — and in addition to the interpretive elements, Ivanova envisions that the interior atrium, which seats about 400 people, can still be used for cultural and scientific events. </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: The only thing I would like to add to this building is a glass outside elevator that can bring the visitors to the top of the tower. There is a 70 meters tower on the top of the mountain and there is a wonderful view from there. This is the only addition. I really strive to keep it intact. This is a proposal to add an observation deck to the top of the spire. From there, people could enjoy the wonderful view.]</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The Project which began as Ivanova’s master’s thesis seems to be gaining steam. Ivanova says that she has come to the conclusion that the best way to save Buzludzha is  to harness the interest of the site that comes from outside Bulgaria. Just recently, the site has been recognized by Europa Nostra – Europe’s leading heritage preservation organization, as one of the seven most endangered heritage sites in europe.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: And with this, it’s a win, actually. A rescue mission of European experts that will come to Bulgaria and will make a report and expertise us about the building and how it can be preserved. It is very important is to do a structural survey and a business plan and we need finances for that. But of course, all of this is at a very high political level and it is a political decision and I really hope it can be resolved soon. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>The site is truly amazing, even as a ruin. But I really want to visit the Buzludzha that Ivonva proposed. Bulgaria doesn’t have an intertrprive museum that explains the year of Socialism. I can think of no better place to put it than in one of that periods most daring symbols right in the heart of the country.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: I guess I was inspired by Berlin, which is the city of dark history, the city of division and of the Second World War and the cold war. We have all the evidences here. What if Berlin decides to demolish all that and to say it never happened? I think that is not a good solution. I am very inspired by the way they present that for education and how people are first knowing their past and second presenting it to the others. And this attracts so many tourists and this makes Berlin what it is now. I really would like to take this attitude of knowing, understanding, educating, and try to implement such a project in Bulgaria where, it is a difficult past, and it is traumatic for many people, it is still memory and not history, but now is the time to action before the evidence is demolished and until people still remember it and still can write history from a personal view. Buzludzha can be this place. It is already the place that shows the problem. It think and I hope that it can become the place that shows the solution of the problem. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>You can find more about the Buzludzha Project Foundation, and see the pictures of what it is now, and renderings of what it might look like, at buzludzha-monument.com/project. </p>
<p>[Outro]</p>
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    <![CDATA[<p>High in the Bulgarian mountains, Buzludzha monument is deteriorating. Commemorating&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitar_Blagoev">early Bulgarian Marxists</a>, it was designed to emphasize&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7I65bs_HH4">the power and modernity of the Bulgarian Communist Party</a>. Buzludzha is now at the center of a debate over how&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/archives/">Bulgaria remembers its past</a>. Some people want to destroy it, some people want to restore it to its former glory, but Bulgarian architect Dora Ivanova&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bta.bg/en/c/NW/id/1215789">has a better idea</a>.<br><br>Ivanova wants to turn it into a museum, and she founded&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/">the Buzludzha Project Foundation</a>&nbsp;to do exactly that.&nbsp;<br><br>In this episode, Ivanova describes how the city of Berlin inspired her plan for the preservation of Buzludzha, how to preserve the past without glorifying it, and&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/news/">the next steps to making her plan a reality</a>.<br>

<h3>Topics Discussed</h3><p>00:00 Intro<br>00:15&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7I65bs_HH4">Buzludzha's Opening Ceremony</a><br>01:04 Buzludzha Today<br>01:38 Buzludzha As Propaganda<br>02:00&nbsp;<a href="http://www.bta.bg/en/c/NW/id/1215789">Dora Ivanova</a><br>02:20&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/archives/">"The Cathedral of Socialism"</a><br>02:45 Ian's Buzludzha Visit<br>03:30&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/">Ivanova on Perserving Buzludzha</a><br>04:22&nbsp;<a href="http://museumarchipelago.com/index">What To Do With Old Monuments</a><br>04:59&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/">Ivanova's Museum Proposal</a><br>06:20 Tower Elevator<br>07:05 Next Steps<br>07:56 Inspiration From The City of Berlin<br>09:22&nbsp;<a href="http://www.buzludzha-monument.com/project/">The Buzludzha Project Foundation</a><br>09:37 Outro -&nbsp;<a href="https://www.patreon.com/museumarchipelago">Join Club Archipelago</a></p>

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<p>[Intro]</p>
<p>In 1981, on top of a mountain in the middle of Bulgaria, high-ranking members of the Bulgarian communist party gathered to celebrate the opening of a new monument. </p>
<p>The monument, called Buzludzha Memorial House, was erected here to commemorate the 90 year anniversary of the first illegal meeting of Bulgarian Marxists. The communist dictator of Bulgaria, Todor Zhivkov, dedicated the monument. </p>
<p>[Audio of Zhivkov’s speech in Bulgarian] </p>
<p>“Let the pathways leading here, never fall into disrepair,” he said. </p>
<p>Of course, it did fall into disrepair. Eight years after opening, Todor Zhivkov was deposed from office by his own party, and soon after the rule of the Bulgarian Communist Party crumbled.</p>
<p>Buzludzha is in an eerie state of decay. I’ve never seen anything like it. It’s mostly in the shape of a flying saucer — an enormous round disc of concrete. If a particular alien culture had a fetish for brutalism, this would be their spaceport. Rising out of the back of the saucer is a tower, 230 ft high, and flanked by two red stars. The communist party claimed that the red stars, illuminated at night by spotlights, could be seen from as far away as the Romanian border in the north, and the Greek border to the south.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: It was on purpose built like this. It was built to impress. It was built as part of the political propaganda and education as they called it during this time. It’s shape looks like a UFO, actually. This is also on purpose because it had to show how the socialist idea is contemporary, it’s the future.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This is Dora Ivanova. </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: Hello, my name is Dora Ivanova, and I am the founder of the Buzledzha Project Foundation, which aims to preserve the Buzludzha monument. The first time I visited Buzledga was in 2014. I was amazed. It’s a really powerful place. It felt like being in a cathedral. The cathedral of socialism, I’ll call it. I found that it is in not that bad condition, that it can still be saved. I was thinking that it is defiantly worth saving. But later, with my next visits, I got more sad and  sadder about the condition. Seeing every time that the condition of the construction is worse and worse, it is really hard for me.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I visited Buzledzha in the summer of 2018. The glass is gone from its windows, the red stars have been shot at and smashed, and there are worrying holes in the concrete structure.</p>
<p>The monument has been left to decay — mostly sitting in limbo as the Bulgarian socialist party and the Bulgarian government argue over what to do with it. The only new development was that in January of 2018, a guard has been posted at the site to prevent people from entering and seeing the atrium or the crumbling socialist mosaics inside. He said he was not allowed to do an interview. </p>
<p>Both Ivanova and I are too young to have lived under Socialism in Bulgaria directly. My association with that period of time has been almost exclusively with the old monuments scattered around the country.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: In my opinion, the building should be preserved in its present condition. It defiantly should not be restored. To restore it would restore its meaning, and for many people it means to restore the glory of the socialist party. And this is defiantly something we don’t want to do. Many other people want it to turn into something different or imagine having a different function. But I think Buzledzha is interesting with what it is, what it stands for, and what it has already. I don’t think we need to put additional meaning or function to it. If we explain what is already there, if we explain the history which is behind this structure, this is the most powerful and meaningful solution.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Museum Archipelago has explored the theme of what to do with these old monuments before, particularly monuments that are symbols of repressive ideologies. </p>
<p>Episodes 5 and 35, about Stalinworld in Lithuania and The Museum of Socialist Art in the Bulgaria deal with these issues directly.</p>
<p>But Buzledza is such an extreme example, and the debate around it, as far as I have heard, ether centers around completely destroying it or returning it to its former glory. </p>
<p>Ivanova has a different idea. After visiting for the first time, she knew that she wanted to devote her Master’s thesis to an in-depth proposal to transform the site into a museum.  </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Dora Ivanova: My proposal is to explain the ideology in a very powerful way. To explain all the mosaics, and they are different images. If they are all presented in a very objective and critical way, this will give an understanding of the whole period. And there are aspects like the culture and the role of the women in this period that can be explained to the public. </p>
<p>In the underground levels, they can be a gallery that explains the history of the monument itself. Starting with the history of the place, the planning process, the construction, which was amazing achievement. Also how the building was used, why it was abandoned, how it was destroyed, and hopefully, how it was preserved.</p>
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<p>The proposal works for me because it uses the space as it is. The building was built as a gathering space — and in addition to the interpretive elements, Ivanova envisions that the interior atrium, which seats about 400 people, can still be used for cultural and scientific events. </p>
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<p>Dora Ivanova: The only thing I would like to add to this building is a glass outside elevator that can bring the visitors to the top of the tower. There is a 70 meters tower on the top of the mountain and there is a wonderful view from there. This is the only addition. I really strive to keep it intact. This is a proposal to add an observation deck to the top of the spire. From there, people could enjoy the wonderful view.]</p>
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<p>The Project which began as Ivanova’s master’s thesis seems to be gaining steam. Ivanova says that she has come to the conclusion that the best way to save Buzludzha is  to harness the interest of the site that comes from outside Bulgaria. Just recently, the site has been recognized by Europa Nostra – Europe’s leading heritage preservation organization, as one of the seven most endangered heritage sites in europe.</p>
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<p>Dora Ivanova: And with this, it’s a win, actually. A rescue mission of European experts that will come to Bulgaria and will make a report and expertise us about the building and how it can be preserved. It is very important is to do a structural survey and a business plan and we need finances for that. But of course, all of this is at a very high political level and it is a political decision and I really hope it can be resolved soon. </p>
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<p>The site is truly amazing, even as a ruin. But I really want to visit the Buzludzha that Ivonva proposed. Bulgaria doesn’t have an intertrprive museum that explains the year of Socialism. I can think of no better place to put it than in one of that periods most daring symbols right in the heart of the country.</p>
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<p>Dora Ivanova: I guess I was inspired by Berlin, which is the city of dark history, the city of division and of the Second World War and the cold war. We have all the evidences here. What if Berlin decides to demolish all that and to say it never happened? I think that is not a good solution. I am very inspired by the way they present that for education and how people are first knowing their past and second presenting it to the others. And this attracts so many tourists and this makes Berlin what it is now. I really would like to take this attitude of knowing, understanding, educating, and try to implement such a project in Bulgaria where, it is a difficult past, and it is traumatic for many people, it is still memory and not history, but now is the time to action before the evidence is demolished and until people still remember it and still can write history from a personal view. Buzludzha can be this place. It is already the place that shows the problem. It think and I hope that it can become the place that shows the solution of the problem. </p>
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<p>You can find more about the Buzludzha Project Foundation, and see the pictures of what it is now, and renderings of what it might look like, at buzludzha-monument.com/project. </p>
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  <title>46. Vessela Gercheva Directs Playful Exhibits at Bulgaria’s First Children’s Museum</title>
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  <author>Ian Elsner</author>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/arts/international/a-childrens-museum-comes-to-bulgaria.html"&gt;There were no children’s museums&lt;/a&gt; in the Balkans before &lt;a href="http://muzeiko.bg/en"&gt;Muzeiko&lt;/a&gt; opened in Sofia, Bulgaria in 2015. Days before Muzeiko’s historic opening, I interviewed Vessela Gercheva, the museum’s Programs and Exhibits Director. Gercheva talked about the challenges of opening the museum, not the least of which was how few people actually knew what a children’s museum was.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today, almost three years later, Gercheva says things have changed. Muzeiko is packed with kids, careening through exhibits designed just for them. Gercheva and Muzeiko are at the forefront of a shifting attitude towards children's education in Bulgaria. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;This episode was recorded on May 28, 2018 in Sofia, Bulgaria.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;

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Below is a transcript of Museum Archipelago episode 46. Museum Archipelago is produced for the ear and the only the audio of the episode is canonical. For more information on the people and ideas in the episode, refer to the links above.
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&lt;p&gt;[Intro]&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Vessela Gerchva: Hello, my name is Vessela Gerchva and I’m the exhibits director for Muszeko.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Muzeiko, which means little museum in Bulgarian, is the first children’s museum in the Balkans.  Before it opened in the Bulgarian capital of Sofia in 2015, all museums in the country where of the artifacts-behind-glass variety.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I first interviewed Gercheva in 2015, just before Muzeiko opened. In that interview, she said that the concept of a children’s museum was still new to Bulgarians. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Vessela Gerchva: Nobody knows here what a children’s science center does. It is a very abstract concept. What does it do? Does it display children? What does it do?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Today, almost three years after opening, Gercheva said that initial confusion — that nobody knew what a children’s museum was — has been resolved. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Vessela Gerchva: It has been crossed. The barrier now is more of what should we do inside if we don’t have to look at objects behind glass? We have been doing a lot of explaining about the importance of play about the importance of time together between children and parents. I assume this will continue at least some time because this is very new.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Gervecha says that the main reason why it has taken so long to build a children’s museum in Bulgaria was because of the style of learning during decades of Communism in Bulgaria, a style that focused on memorization and heavily deemphasized playful learning.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember visiting Bulgarian museums when I was a kid the ‘90s. They were cool for a young museum nerd like me, but they were certainly not for kids. Most of the signs said not to touch anything. And I vividly remember being the only one there, adult or child. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now things have changed.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Vessela Gerchva: First of all we opened. There was a big change. It was received in several ways, I can’t describe in one word. First of all in numbers, it was received pretty well. In the beginning especially we had days where we had a lot a lot of visitors. We were making the organization of the days so that we could close for a while — then we would open for the others to come In terms of how people feel about it, there are several different layers. First of all there is a group of parents, teachers, — people who even before we opened were extremely interested in providing new environment for children. So naturally, these people came even before we opened. There is a second kind of circle that it is a little more distant. These are teachers that are interest to get new experience to kids, but find it very difficult in the current educational environment in Bulgaria which is quite restricting. Gets teachers in a lot of administrative work so it is really challenging to get kids outside of the school and to get them interested in science.  So in many ways, from very exerligratering-ly received to not understanding what this, why should I bring my kid here. In this range, all the emotions, we have had them all.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Gercheva has a good answer to “why should I bring my kids here”? Muzekio’s exhibits, like the exhibits of many children’s science centers in the United States, are based on the theory of learning through play and applied activities.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Vessela Gerchva: We have exhibits where we invite the visitor to be in first person, to imagine themselves as an archeologist or as a geologist. But there are also exhibits in which we invite play which is thematic. Because we believe — it’s not only our belief — that playing itself excites children and makes them want to learn more, even if they are very small. We see this for example in the Toddler’s Days. It is still early of course to say if our toddlers are becoming astronomers, fingers crossed for that and if this happens it will not just be Muzeko to blame. But in the Toddler’s Days we have very young visitors — one two years old who get to play with the physical exhibits even if they are too young for the scientific concepts and any kind of information that is provided to them.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The exhibits are a mix of digital and physical exhibits. The digital exhibits, which themselves are mostly new in the Bulgarian museum landscape, were made by a game studio in Sofia, and many of them have game-like elements. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many of the physical exhibits are also interactive. In an exhibit called Constructed World visitors turn cranks and pull levers that move various elements of a city model — water through pipes and traffic through roads.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Vessela Gerchva: Conceptually, the digital exhibits and the physical exhibits have been planned together, so they are very closely interlinked. For example, in the geology exhibit, you would have the physical exhibit that show how tectonic plates are collide to form different reactions that we see on earth. And the digital exhibit would talk about caves, and how people inhabited caves and left traces of art, even in very distant times. Because they were planned together, they don’t stand apart. They form a part of a joint concept. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the beginning we had parents that were like, “we don’t really want the kid to be at the computer because he or she is on the computer all the time” but they very quickly understood that we’re providing content that is inseparable from the other exhibits and digital exhibits will make kids explore the physical ones and vice versa. I believe we haven’t put a big stress on digital exhibits, so that parents feel threatened by the brainwash … this quickly went away. We don’t have this concern anymore from parents.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Muzeiko’s colorful and modern facade stands out in a city full of drab gray buildings. But if you stood it side by side with other children's museums around the world, it would fit right in The concepts illustrated inside would fit right into other children's science centers around the world. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even though the science presented is of course universal, there is a tie in to Bulgarian contributions. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Vessela Gerchva: Actually, there is a Bulgarian point in many of the exhibits, almost all of them. It is ether a Bulgarian invention like the first computer, or the Bulgarian greenhouse that traveled to the International Space Station. Or it can be a Bulgarian scientist or cosmonaut, we try to make a Bulgarian point in almost every exhibit. It was not the point to have at all means a Bulgarian touch in the exhibit. It was the point to show that science is universal, and even if Bulgaria is a small country, there are points at which Bulgaria made a big contribution. There are others in which we have worked in teams, and in those areas we have shown something else or some other achievement. The point here to make is that science is universal and that people make achievements when they work together.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The way that Gercheva talks about children's museums is very similar to the way that Margaret Middleton describes the process of making children’s museums in the United States. Middleton, an independent museum designer based in Providence, RI, USA, says that for adults, there are learning outcomes, but for kids, there are visitor outcomes.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Young me would’ve LOVED Muzeiko. I think about myself as that lone kid wandering a museum full of objects behind glass, and how much I would’ve loved to touch the objects, push buttons, pull levers, and explore in a three-dimensional world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it’s not just about my experience visiting Bulgaria as a kid. Muzeiko represents an optimism that wasn’t present in Bulgaria years ago. A successful children’s museum needs children to visit, and right after Communism fell in the late 1980s, many families left Bulgaria. People weren’t having kids, kindergartens closed, the average age kept increasing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But things have changed. Bulgaria is now a place where people want to stay and start a family. There’s a sense of hope for the future, and that’s represented in this museum for children, full of young people careening through its exhibits designed for kids. And it isn’t just Muzeko. Gercheva says that the museum is working with other museums in Bulgaria, emphasizing new pedagogical methods to help convey their message to children more clearly. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Vessela Gerchva: There is a lot of knowledge in Bulgarian museums and the people who work there. These are incredibly well-prepared specialists in their areas. Just as any well prepared specialists, it is very difficult for them to limit the message and the story to one thing. Methodologically, we have been taught that we have to give a whole bunch of information and we now know, that children CAN’T get it all. For me, from the perspective of working with children, a lot more stress should be placed on the concept and on the content. I believe we should specialize more in telling stories.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you’d like to learn more about Muzieko, you can listen to my first interview with Gercheva before the museum opened in 2015 in episode 6 of this program. To hear Margaret Middleton describe working on Children’s Museums in the United States, head to episode 45.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Outro]&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Vessela Gerchva: Hello, my name is Vessela Gerchva and I’m the exhibits director for Muszeko.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Muzeiko, which means little museum in Bulgarian, is the first children’s museum in the Balkans.  Before it opened in the Bulgarian capital of Sofia in 2015, all museums in the country where of the artifacts-behind-glass variety.</p>
<p>I first interviewed Gercheva in 2015, just before Muzeiko opened. In that interview, she said that the concept of a children’s museum was still new to Bulgarians. </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Vessela Gerchva: Nobody knows here what a children’s science center does. It is a very abstract concept. What does it do? Does it display children? What does it do?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Today, almost three years after opening, Gercheva said that initial confusion — that nobody knew what a children’s museum was — has been resolved. </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Vessela Gerchva: It has been crossed. The barrier now is more of what should we do inside if we don’t have to look at objects behind glass? We have been doing a lot of explaining about the importance of play about the importance of time together between children and parents. I assume this will continue at least some time because this is very new.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Gervecha says that the main reason why it has taken so long to build a children’s museum in Bulgaria was because of the style of learning during decades of Communism in Bulgaria, a style that focused on memorization and heavily deemphasized playful learning.</p>
<p>I remember visiting Bulgarian museums when I was a kid the ‘90s. They were cool for a young museum nerd like me, but they were certainly not for kids. Most of the signs said not to touch anything. And I vividly remember being the only one there, adult or child. </p>
<p>Now things have changed.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Vessela Gerchva: First of all we opened. There was a big change. It was received in several ways, I can’t describe in one word. First of all in numbers, it was received pretty well. In the beginning especially we had days where we had a lot a lot of visitors. We were making the organization of the days so that we could close for a while — then we would open for the others to come In terms of how people feel about it, there are several different layers. First of all there is a group of parents, teachers, — people who even before we opened were extremely interested in providing new environment for children. So naturally, these people came even before we opened. There is a second kind of circle that it is a little more distant. These are teachers that are interest to get new experience to kids, but find it very difficult in the current educational environment in Bulgaria which is quite restricting. Gets teachers in a lot of administrative work so it is really challenging to get kids outside of the school and to get them interested in science.  So in many ways, from very exerligratering-ly received to not understanding what this, why should I bring my kid here. In this range, all the emotions, we have had them all.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Gercheva has a good answer to “why should I bring my kids here”? Muzekio’s exhibits, like the exhibits of many children’s science centers in the United States, are based on the theory of learning through play and applied activities.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Vessela Gerchva: We have exhibits where we invite the visitor to be in first person, to imagine themselves as an archeologist or as a geologist. But there are also exhibits in which we invite play which is thematic. Because we believe — it’s not only our belief — that playing itself excites children and makes them want to learn more, even if they are very small. We see this for example in the Toddler’s Days. It is still early of course to say if our toddlers are becoming astronomers, fingers crossed for that and if this happens it will not just be Muzeko to blame. But in the Toddler’s Days we have very young visitors — one two years old who get to play with the physical exhibits even if they are too young for the scientific concepts and any kind of information that is provided to them.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The exhibits are a mix of digital and physical exhibits. The digital exhibits, which themselves are mostly new in the Bulgarian museum landscape, were made by a game studio in Sofia, and many of them have game-like elements. </p>
<p>Many of the physical exhibits are also interactive. In an exhibit called Constructed World visitors turn cranks and pull levers that move various elements of a city model — water through pipes and traffic through roads.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Vessela Gerchva: Conceptually, the digital exhibits and the physical exhibits have been planned together, so they are very closely interlinked. For example, in the geology exhibit, you would have the physical exhibit that show how tectonic plates are collide to form different reactions that we see on earth. And the digital exhibit would talk about caves, and how people inhabited caves and left traces of art, even in very distant times. Because they were planned together, they don’t stand apart. They form a part of a joint concept. </p>

<p>In the beginning we had parents that were like, “we don’t really want the kid to be at the computer because he or she is on the computer all the time” but they very quickly understood that we’re providing content that is inseparable from the other exhibits and digital exhibits will make kids explore the physical ones and vice versa. I believe we haven’t put a big stress on digital exhibits, so that parents feel threatened by the brainwash … this quickly went away. We don’t have this concern anymore from parents.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Muzeiko’s colorful and modern facade stands out in a city full of drab gray buildings. But if you stood it side by side with other children&#39;s museums around the world, it would fit right in The concepts illustrated inside would fit right into other children&#39;s science centers around the world. </p>
<p>Even though the science presented is of course universal, there is a tie in to Bulgarian contributions. </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Vessela Gerchva: Actually, there is a Bulgarian point in many of the exhibits, almost all of them. It is ether a Bulgarian invention like the first computer, or the Bulgarian greenhouse that traveled to the International Space Station. Or it can be a Bulgarian scientist or cosmonaut, we try to make a Bulgarian point in almost every exhibit. It was not the point to have at all means a Bulgarian touch in the exhibit. It was the point to show that science is universal, and even if Bulgaria is a small country, there are points at which Bulgaria made a big contribution. There are others in which we have worked in teams, and in those areas we have shown something else or some other achievement. The point here to make is that science is universal and that people make achievements when they work together.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>The way that Gercheva talks about children&#39;s museums is very similar to the way that Margaret Middleton describes the process of making children’s museums in the United States. Middleton, an independent museum designer based in Providence, RI, USA, says that for adults, there are learning outcomes, but for kids, there are visitor outcomes.  </p>
<p>Young me would’ve LOVED Muzeiko. I think about myself as that lone kid wandering a museum full of objects behind glass, and how much I would’ve loved to touch the objects, push buttons, pull levers, and explore in a three-dimensional world.</p>
<p>But it’s not just about my experience visiting Bulgaria as a kid. Muzeiko represents an optimism that wasn’t present in Bulgaria years ago. A successful children’s museum needs children to visit, and right after Communism fell in the late 1980s, many families left Bulgaria. People weren’t having kids, kindergartens closed, the average age kept increasing.</p>
<p>But things have changed. Bulgaria is now a place where people want to stay and start a family. There’s a sense of hope for the future, and that’s represented in this museum for children, full of young people careening through its exhibits designed for kids. And it isn’t just Muzeko. Gercheva says that the museum is working with other museums in Bulgaria, emphasizing new pedagogical methods to help convey their message to children more clearly. </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Vessela Gerchva: There is a lot of knowledge in Bulgarian museums and the people who work there. These are incredibly well-prepared specialists in their areas. Just as any well prepared specialists, it is very difficult for them to limit the message and the story to one thing. Methodologically, we have been taught that we have to give a whole bunch of information and we now know, that children CAN’T get it all. For me, from the perspective of working with children, a lot more stress should be placed on the concept and on the content. I believe we should specialize more in telling stories.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>If you’d like to learn more about Muzieko, you can listen to my first interview with Gercheva before the museum opened in 2015 in episode 6 of this program. To hear Margaret Middleton describe working on Children’s Museums in the United States, head to episode 45.</p>
<p>[Outro]</p>
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    <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/arts/international/a-childrens-museum-comes-to-bulgaria.html">There were no children’s museums</a> in the Balkans before <a href="http://muzeiko.bg/en">Muzeiko</a> opened in Sofia, Bulgaria in 2015. Days before Muzeiko’s historic opening, I interviewed Vessela Gercheva, the museum’s Programs and Exhibits Director. Gercheva talked about the challenges of opening the museum, not the least of which was how few people actually knew what a children’s museum was.<br><br>Today, almost three years later, Gercheva says things have changed. Muzeiko is packed with kids, careening through exhibits designed just for them. Gercheva and Muzeiko are at the forefront of a shifting attitude towards children's education in Bulgaria. <br><br><em>This episode was recorded on May 28, 2018 in Sofia, Bulgaria.</em> <br>

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<p>Vessela Gerchva: Hello, my name is Vessela Gerchva and I’m the exhibits director for Muszeko.</p>
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<p>Muzeiko, which means little museum in Bulgarian, is the first children’s museum in the Balkans.  Before it opened in the Bulgarian capital of Sofia in 2015, all museums in the country where of the artifacts-behind-glass variety.</p>
<p>I first interviewed Gercheva in 2015, just before Muzeiko opened. In that interview, she said that the concept of a children’s museum was still new to Bulgarians. </p>
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<p>Vessela Gerchva: Nobody knows here what a children’s science center does. It is a very abstract concept. What does it do? Does it display children? What does it do?</p>
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<p>Today, almost three years after opening, Gercheva said that initial confusion — that nobody knew what a children’s museum was — has been resolved. </p>
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<p>Vessela Gerchva: It has been crossed. The barrier now is more of what should we do inside if we don’t have to look at objects behind glass? We have been doing a lot of explaining about the importance of play about the importance of time together between children and parents. I assume this will continue at least some time because this is very new.</p>
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<p>Gervecha says that the main reason why it has taken so long to build a children’s museum in Bulgaria was because of the style of learning during decades of Communism in Bulgaria, a style that focused on memorization and heavily deemphasized playful learning.</p>
<p>I remember visiting Bulgarian museums when I was a kid the ‘90s. They were cool for a young museum nerd like me, but they were certainly not for kids. Most of the signs said not to touch anything. And I vividly remember being the only one there, adult or child. </p>
<p>Now things have changed.</p>
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<p>Vessela Gerchva: First of all we opened. There was a big change. It was received in several ways, I can’t describe in one word. First of all in numbers, it was received pretty well. In the beginning especially we had days where we had a lot a lot of visitors. We were making the organization of the days so that we could close for a while — then we would open for the others to come In terms of how people feel about it, there are several different layers. First of all there is a group of parents, teachers, — people who even before we opened were extremely interested in providing new environment for children. So naturally, these people came even before we opened. There is a second kind of circle that it is a little more distant. These are teachers that are interest to get new experience to kids, but find it very difficult in the current educational environment in Bulgaria which is quite restricting. Gets teachers in a lot of administrative work so it is really challenging to get kids outside of the school and to get them interested in science.  So in many ways, from very exerligratering-ly received to not understanding what this, why should I bring my kid here. In this range, all the emotions, we have had them all.</p>
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<p>Gercheva has a good answer to “why should I bring my kids here”? Muzekio’s exhibits, like the exhibits of many children’s science centers in the United States, are based on the theory of learning through play and applied activities.</p>
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<p>Vessela Gerchva: We have exhibits where we invite the visitor to be in first person, to imagine themselves as an archeologist or as a geologist. But there are also exhibits in which we invite play which is thematic. Because we believe — it’s not only our belief — that playing itself excites children and makes them want to learn more, even if they are very small. We see this for example in the Toddler’s Days. It is still early of course to say if our toddlers are becoming astronomers, fingers crossed for that and if this happens it will not just be Muzeko to blame. But in the Toddler’s Days we have very young visitors — one two years old who get to play with the physical exhibits even if they are too young for the scientific concepts and any kind of information that is provided to them.</p>
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<p>The exhibits are a mix of digital and physical exhibits. The digital exhibits, which themselves are mostly new in the Bulgarian museum landscape, were made by a game studio in Sofia, and many of them have game-like elements. </p>
<p>Many of the physical exhibits are also interactive. In an exhibit called Constructed World visitors turn cranks and pull levers that move various elements of a city model — water through pipes and traffic through roads.</p>
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<p>Vessela Gerchva: Conceptually, the digital exhibits and the physical exhibits have been planned together, so they are very closely interlinked. For example, in the geology exhibit, you would have the physical exhibit that show how tectonic plates are collide to form different reactions that we see on earth. And the digital exhibit would talk about caves, and how people inhabited caves and left traces of art, even in very distant times. Because they were planned together, they don’t stand apart. They form a part of a joint concept. </p>

<p>In the beginning we had parents that were like, “we don’t really want the kid to be at the computer because he or she is on the computer all the time” but they very quickly understood that we’re providing content that is inseparable from the other exhibits and digital exhibits will make kids explore the physical ones and vice versa. I believe we haven’t put a big stress on digital exhibits, so that parents feel threatened by the brainwash … this quickly went away. We don’t have this concern anymore from parents.</p>
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<p>Muzeiko’s colorful and modern facade stands out in a city full of drab gray buildings. But if you stood it side by side with other children&#39;s museums around the world, it would fit right in The concepts illustrated inside would fit right into other children&#39;s science centers around the world. </p>
<p>Even though the science presented is of course universal, there is a tie in to Bulgarian contributions. </p>
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<p>Vessela Gerchva: Actually, there is a Bulgarian point in many of the exhibits, almost all of them. It is ether a Bulgarian invention like the first computer, or the Bulgarian greenhouse that traveled to the International Space Station. Or it can be a Bulgarian scientist or cosmonaut, we try to make a Bulgarian point in almost every exhibit. It was not the point to have at all means a Bulgarian touch in the exhibit. It was the point to show that science is universal, and even if Bulgaria is a small country, there are points at which Bulgaria made a big contribution. There are others in which we have worked in teams, and in those areas we have shown something else or some other achievement. The point here to make is that science is universal and that people make achievements when they work together.</p>
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<p>The way that Gercheva talks about children&#39;s museums is very similar to the way that Margaret Middleton describes the process of making children’s museums in the United States. Middleton, an independent museum designer based in Providence, RI, USA, says that for adults, there are learning outcomes, but for kids, there are visitor outcomes.  </p>
<p>Young me would’ve LOVED Muzeiko. I think about myself as that lone kid wandering a museum full of objects behind glass, and how much I would’ve loved to touch the objects, push buttons, pull levers, and explore in a three-dimensional world.</p>
<p>But it’s not just about my experience visiting Bulgaria as a kid. Muzeiko represents an optimism that wasn’t present in Bulgaria years ago. A successful children’s museum needs children to visit, and right after Communism fell in the late 1980s, many families left Bulgaria. People weren’t having kids, kindergartens closed, the average age kept increasing.</p>
<p>But things have changed. Bulgaria is now a place where people want to stay and start a family. There’s a sense of hope for the future, and that’s represented in this museum for children, full of young people careening through its exhibits designed for kids. And it isn’t just Muzeko. Gercheva says that the museum is working with other museums in Bulgaria, emphasizing new pedagogical methods to help convey their message to children more clearly. </p>
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<p>Vessela Gerchva: There is a lot of knowledge in Bulgarian museums and the people who work there. These are incredibly well-prepared specialists in their areas. Just as any well prepared specialists, it is very difficult for them to limit the message and the story to one thing. Methodologically, we have been taught that we have to give a whole bunch of information and we now know, that children CAN’T get it all. For me, from the perspective of working with children, a lot more stress should be placed on the concept and on the content. I believe we should specialize more in telling stories.</p>
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<p>If you’d like to learn more about Muzieko, you can listen to my first interview with Gercheva before the museum opened in 2015 in episode 6 of this program. To hear Margaret Middleton describe working on Children’s Museums in the United States, head to episode 45.</p>
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  <itunes:subtitle>The Bulgarian National Polytechnical Museum is a science museum that also tells the story of Bulgarian and world history. </itunes:subtitle>
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    <![CDATA[<p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Polytechnical_Museum">Bulgarian National Polytechnical Museum</a> is a science museum that also tells the story of Bulgarian and world history. The building itself once housed a museum of a Bulgarian communist leader, and <a href="http://bnr.bg/en/post/100789010/the-national-polytechnic-museum-and-the-secrets-of-technology-and-its-history-in-bulgaria">the technical artifacts on display</a>, from simple machines to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pravetz_computers">Bulgarian-made computers from the 1980s</a> present both <a href="https://twitter.com/polytechnicbg">scientific concepts and the political contexts in which they were developed</a>.</p><p>In this episode, curator Vassil Macaranov describes how the increasing role of technology in our lives underscores the importance of presenting scientific and technological artifacts with their historical contexts.</p><p><em>This episode was recorded at the Bulgarian National Polytechnical Museum in Sofia Bulgaria on June 8th, 2018.</em></p><p>
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  <itunes:subtitle>After the fall of communism in Bulgaria in 1989, statues of Bulgarian communist leaders, idealized revolutionary workers, and Lenins were taken down all over the county. Some of these statues are now in the Museum of Socialist Art in Sofia. Bulgaria doesn’t have a history museum that explores its communist past.</itunes:subtitle>
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In this episode, museum director Nikolai Ushtavaliiski and art historian Elitsa Terzieva talk about organizing the past by focusing on art. The outdoor sculpture garden, above, is unorganized, with statues placed wherever there is room. The indoor galleries, by contrast, are organized by exhibitions exploring specific themes. Even though the museum stays as far away from politics as possible by focusing on the art, these exhibitions provide the framework to start interpreting the era. At some point, there will be a museum that explores the communist era in Bulgaria, but until then this collection of artwork gives you a lot to think about.
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Mythologems of the Heroic (http://www.novinite.com/articles/180097/The+National+Gallery+and+the+Museum+of+Socialist+Art+Present+the+Exhibition+%27Mythologems+of+the+Heroic%27)
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        &lt;p&gt;I'm standing at the museum of socialist art and Sofia, Bulgaria. Standing next to me is art historian Elitsa Terzieva. We're surrounded by Soviet era statues. These statues were erected in various public squares in Bulgarian cities and have since been collected at this museum in an outdoor garden. There are statues of good-looking workers, heroically turning a crank. There are statues of important bespectacled leeders, and there are quite a number of Lenins keeping watch over everything with what I can only assume is a dignified expression.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I ask Elisa what these statues of Lenin mean to her. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Elitsa Terzieva: Well, for me it's a bit controversial because, as a young person. Am I young? I'm 26. Maybe. I have heard about him from my grandparents, from my parents, but it's something like a horror movie, I've heard of, but I haven't even watched it. The other side of my perception is an art historian, because I have studied everything in detail, so I know much more about it compared to if my profession was, something else.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The statues were obviously made with a great deal of technical skill and they look like they were built to last forever. &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Elitsa Terzieva: So if they wanted to be sculptures and artists and painters, they should get used to the new regime and everything that goes with it. It is like you say, that they could last forever. Like the pyramids. That is some parts of the aesthetic dogmatism of the periods they had to lork monumental. And that is not just the vision, but a material that they're made of.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The museum of socialist art is about art. During the period of communist rule in Bulgaria 1944 to 1989, it only focuses on the art itself. The museum is actually an extension of the Bulgarian National Gallery of Art. According to museum director Nikolai Ushtavaliiski, that makes this museum unique among museums about communist times in other Eastern European countries.&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: This of the few, if not the only one in Europe, but the museums that focus on the art side of things because. Most of the museums and there were very few in the other countries are centered on the historical side of things, not visual material, just history, the political side.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The communist period is not well represented by museums in Bulgaria, but at some point when the era becomes less about memory and more about history, museums and Bulgaria will cover this period.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I asked Nikolai about how he sees the interpretive role of this art museum.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: He thinks that we doubt a simple historical base, it is impossible to get into things, although we have texts or something else because we are in the field of art history. So we cannot, make things look another way. We work with these things so we can understand the main things to these, but it's not enough. Here comes their own education, but it's not around the visitors. It's not very well organized. Especially for this period.&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: It's a pity that it is not well organized in the education because you know that we were under Turkey yolk and liberation was 1878, so you can count from then to now how many years we have. And such a big part of our history as a new born country, were under this period. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I see this feeling in other Bulgarians I know. Because Bulgaria is such a young country, those years of communist rule, in addition to everything else they took away, took away the formative years that could have helped solidify an identity. My Bulgarian grandfather would always subtract 45 years from his age whenever he was asked, because to him, those years under communism were lost years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While I was at the museum, Nikolai was doing interviews with the Bulgarian Press for the opening of a new temporary exhibition that he curated called Mythologoligins of the Heroic. This exhibition lives in an inside space of the museum consisting mostly of paintings, contrasting the outdoor sculpture garden. While the outdoor sculpture garden was presented without any organizational hierarchy, just sculptures placed wherever they would fit from places around Bulgaria, the Mythologoligins of the Heroic exhibition had an organizing theme. The pieces were presented by the values they represented, courage, determination, sacrifice, and self-denial in the name of freedom. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even though the museum stays as far away from politics as possible by focusing on the art, exhibitions like the Mythologoligins of the Heroic provide the framework to start to interpret the era.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even if Bulgaria still doesn't have an in depth museum about the communist period, seeing the artwork organized like this can help give you a sense of the era.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: For this period, the aesthetical perhameriters were not that big like we're used to. Because we know that these were a very powerful tool for the politicians to program the minds of the people. So it has to be explained. It's not beautiful. It's something that you should see. It should make you think about something else. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This has been Museum Archipelago.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>After the fall of communism in Bulgaria in 1989, statues of Bulgarian communist leaders, idealized revolutionary workers, and Lenins were taken down all over the county. Some of these statues are now in the Museum of Socialist Art in Sofia. Bulgaria doesn’t have a history museum that explores its communist past. The Museum of Socialist Art doesn’t fill that void, exactly: it is an extension of the Bulgarian National Gallery of Art. </p>

<p>In this episode, museum director Nikolai Ushtavaliiski and art historian Elitsa Terzieva talk about organizing the past by focusing on art. The outdoor sculpture garden, above, is unorganized, with statues placed wherever there is room. The indoor galleries, by contrast, are organized by exhibitions exploring specific themes. Even though the museum stays as far away from politics as possible by focusing on the art, these exhibitions provide the framework to start interpreting the era. At some point, there will be a museum that explores the communist era in Bulgaria, but until then this collection of artwork gives you a lot to think about.</p>

<h3>Links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_of_Socialist_Art,_Sofia" rel="nofollow">Museum of Socialist Art in Sofia</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.novinite.com/articles/180097/The+National+Gallery+and+the+Museum+of+Socialist+Art+Present+the+Exhibition+%27Mythologems+of+the+Heroic%27" rel="nofollow">Mythologems of the Heroic</a></li>
</ul>

<p><em>Museum Archipelago is a tiny show guiding you through the rocky landscape of museums. Subscribe to the podcast via <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/museum-archipelago/id1182755184" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubXVzZXVtYXJjaGlwZWxhZ28uY29tL3Jzcw==" rel="nofollow">Google Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1182755184/museum-archipelago" rel="nofollow">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5ImpDQJqEypxGNslnImXZE" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>, or even <a href="https://museum.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">email</a> to never miss an episode.</em></p>

<p><em>This Episode was recorded at the Museum of Socialist Art in Sofia, Bulgaria on July 6th, 2017.</em></p>

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        <p>I'm standing at the museum of socialist art and Sofia, Bulgaria. Standing next to me is art historian Elitsa Terzieva. We're surrounded by Soviet era statues. These statues were erected in various public squares in Bulgarian cities and have since been collected at this museum in an outdoor garden. There are statues of good-looking workers, heroically turning a crank. There are statues of important bespectacled leeders, and there are quite a number of Lenins keeping watch over everything with what I can only assume is a dignified expression.</p>

<p>I ask Elisa what these statues of Lenin mean to her. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Elitsa Terzieva: Well, for me it's a bit controversial because, as a young person. Am I young? I'm 26. Maybe. I have heard about him from my grandparents, from my parents, but it's something like a horror movie, I've heard of, but I haven't even watched it. The other side of my perception is an art historian, because I have studied everything in detail, so I know much more about it compared to if my profession was, something else.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The statues were obviously made with a great deal of technical skill and they look like they were built to last forever. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Elitsa Terzieva: They were made by the best sculptures and artists at the time. They were forced to make them, they couldn't make the things they were used to.</p>
  
  <p>Elitsa Terzieva: So if they wanted to be sculptures and artists and painters, they should get used to the new regime and everything that goes with it. It is like you say, that they could last forever. Like the pyramids. That is some parts of the aesthetic dogmatism of the periods they had to lork monumental. And that is not just the vision, but a material that they're made of.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The museum of socialist art is about art. During the period of communist rule in Bulgaria 1944 to 1989, it only focuses on the art itself. The museum is actually an extension of the Bulgarian National Gallery of Art. According to museum director Nikolai Ushtavaliiski, that makes this museum unique among museums about communist times in other Eastern European countries.</p>

<p>Nikolai is the one speaking Bulgarian. Elitsa was kind enough to translate into English.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: This of the few, if not the only one in Europe, but the museums that focus on the art side of things because. Most of the museums and there were very few in the other countries are centered on the historical side of things, not visual material, just history, the political side.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The communist period is not well represented by museums in Bulgaria, but at some point when the era becomes less about memory and more about history, museums and Bulgaria will cover this period.</p>

<p>I asked Nikolai about how he sees the interpretive role of this art museum.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: He thinks that we doubt a simple historical base, it is impossible to get into things, although we have texts or something else because we are in the field of art history. So we cannot, make things look another way. We work with these things so we can understand the main things to these, but it's not enough. Here comes their own education, but it's not around the visitors. It's not very well organized. Especially for this period.</p>
  
  <p>Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: It's a pity that it is not well organized in the education because you know that we were under Turkey yolk and liberation was 1878, so you can count from then to now how many years we have. And such a big part of our history as a new born country, were under this period. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>I see this feeling in other Bulgarians I know. Because Bulgaria is such a young country, those years of communist rule, in addition to everything else they took away, took away the formative years that could have helped solidify an identity. My Bulgarian grandfather would always subtract 45 years from his age whenever he was asked, because to him, those years under communism were lost years.</p>

<p>While I was at the museum, Nikolai was doing interviews with the Bulgarian Press for the opening of a new temporary exhibition that he curated called Mythologoligins of the Heroic. This exhibition lives in an inside space of the museum consisting mostly of paintings, contrasting the outdoor sculpture garden. While the outdoor sculpture garden was presented without any organizational hierarchy, just sculptures placed wherever they would fit from places around Bulgaria, the Mythologoligins of the Heroic exhibition had an organizing theme. The pieces were presented by the values they represented, courage, determination, sacrifice, and self-denial in the name of freedom. </p>

<p>Even though the museum stays as far away from politics as possible by focusing on the art, exhibitions like the Mythologoligins of the Heroic provide the framework to start to interpret the era.</p>

<p>Even if Bulgaria still doesn't have an in depth museum about the communist period, seeing the artwork organized like this can help give you a sense of the era.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: For this period, the aesthetical perhameriters were not that big like we're used to. Because we know that these were a very powerful tool for the politicians to program the minds of the people. So it has to be explained. It's not beautiful. It's something that you should see. It should make you think about something else. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>This has been Museum Archipelago.</p>
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    <![CDATA[<p>After the fall of communism in Bulgaria in 1989, statues of Bulgarian communist leaders, idealized revolutionary workers, and Lenins were taken down all over the county. Some of these statues are now in the Museum of Socialist Art in Sofia. Bulgaria doesn’t have a history museum that explores its communist past. The Museum of Socialist Art doesn’t fill that void, exactly: it is an extension of the Bulgarian National Gallery of Art. </p>

<p>In this episode, museum director Nikolai Ushtavaliiski and art historian Elitsa Terzieva talk about organizing the past by focusing on art. The outdoor sculpture garden, above, is unorganized, with statues placed wherever there is room. The indoor galleries, by contrast, are organized by exhibitions exploring specific themes. Even though the museum stays as far away from politics as possible by focusing on the art, these exhibitions provide the framework to start interpreting the era. At some point, there will be a museum that explores the communist era in Bulgaria, but until then this collection of artwork gives you a lot to think about.</p>

<h3>Links</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_of_Socialist_Art,_Sofia" rel="nofollow">Museum of Socialist Art in Sofia</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.novinite.com/articles/180097/The+National+Gallery+and+the+Museum+of+Socialist+Art+Present+the+Exhibition+%27Mythologems+of+the+Heroic%27" rel="nofollow">Mythologems of the Heroic</a></li>
</ul>

<p><em>Museum Archipelago is a tiny show guiding you through the rocky landscape of museums. Subscribe to the podcast via <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/museum-archipelago/id1182755184" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubXVzZXVtYXJjaGlwZWxhZ28uY29tL3Jzcw==" rel="nofollow">Google Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1182755184/museum-archipelago" rel="nofollow">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5ImpDQJqEypxGNslnImXZE" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>, or even <a href="https://museum.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">email</a> to never miss an episode.</em></p>

<p><em>This Episode was recorded at the Museum of Socialist Art in Sofia, Bulgaria on July 6th, 2017.</em></p>

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        <p>I'm standing at the museum of socialist art and Sofia, Bulgaria. Standing next to me is art historian Elitsa Terzieva. We're surrounded by Soviet era statues. These statues were erected in various public squares in Bulgarian cities and have since been collected at this museum in an outdoor garden. There are statues of good-looking workers, heroically turning a crank. There are statues of important bespectacled leeders, and there are quite a number of Lenins keeping watch over everything with what I can only assume is a dignified expression.</p>

<p>I ask Elisa what these statues of Lenin mean to her. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Elitsa Terzieva: Well, for me it's a bit controversial because, as a young person. Am I young? I'm 26. Maybe. I have heard about him from my grandparents, from my parents, but it's something like a horror movie, I've heard of, but I haven't even watched it. The other side of my perception is an art historian, because I have studied everything in detail, so I know much more about it compared to if my profession was, something else.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The statues were obviously made with a great deal of technical skill and they look like they were built to last forever. </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Elitsa Terzieva: They were made by the best sculptures and artists at the time. They were forced to make them, they couldn't make the things they were used to.</p>
  
  <p>Elitsa Terzieva: So if they wanted to be sculptures and artists and painters, they should get used to the new regime and everything that goes with it. It is like you say, that they could last forever. Like the pyramids. That is some parts of the aesthetic dogmatism of the periods they had to lork monumental. And that is not just the vision, but a material that they're made of.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The museum of socialist art is about art. During the period of communist rule in Bulgaria 1944 to 1989, it only focuses on the art itself. The museum is actually an extension of the Bulgarian National Gallery of Art. According to museum director Nikolai Ushtavaliiski, that makes this museum unique among museums about communist times in other Eastern European countries.</p>

<p>Nikolai is the one speaking Bulgarian. Elitsa was kind enough to translate into English.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: This of the few, if not the only one in Europe, but the museums that focus on the art side of things because. Most of the museums and there were very few in the other countries are centered on the historical side of things, not visual material, just history, the political side.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The communist period is not well represented by museums in Bulgaria, but at some point when the era becomes less about memory and more about history, museums and Bulgaria will cover this period.</p>

<p>I asked Nikolai about how he sees the interpretive role of this art museum.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: He thinks that we doubt a simple historical base, it is impossible to get into things, although we have texts or something else because we are in the field of art history. So we cannot, make things look another way. We work with these things so we can understand the main things to these, but it's not enough. Here comes their own education, but it's not around the visitors. It's not very well organized. Especially for this period.</p>
  
  <p>Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: It's a pity that it is not well organized in the education because you know that we were under Turkey yolk and liberation was 1878, so you can count from then to now how many years we have. And such a big part of our history as a new born country, were under this period. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>I see this feeling in other Bulgarians I know. Because Bulgaria is such a young country, those years of communist rule, in addition to everything else they took away, took away the formative years that could have helped solidify an identity. My Bulgarian grandfather would always subtract 45 years from his age whenever he was asked, because to him, those years under communism were lost years.</p>

<p>While I was at the museum, Nikolai was doing interviews with the Bulgarian Press for the opening of a new temporary exhibition that he curated called Mythologoligins of the Heroic. This exhibition lives in an inside space of the museum consisting mostly of paintings, contrasting the outdoor sculpture garden. While the outdoor sculpture garden was presented without any organizational hierarchy, just sculptures placed wherever they would fit from places around Bulgaria, the Mythologoligins of the Heroic exhibition had an organizing theme. The pieces were presented by the values they represented, courage, determination, sacrifice, and self-denial in the name of freedom. </p>

<p>Even though the museum stays as far away from politics as possible by focusing on the art, exhibitions like the Mythologoligins of the Heroic provide the framework to start to interpret the era.</p>

<p>Even if Bulgaria still doesn't have an in depth museum about the communist period, seeing the artwork organized like this can help give you a sense of the era.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Nikolai Ushtavaliiski: For this period, the aesthetical perhameriters were not that big like we're used to. Because we know that these were a very powerful tool for the politicians to program the minds of the people. So it has to be explained. It's not beautiful. It's something that you should see. It should make you think about something else. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>This has been Museum Archipelago.</p>
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  <itunes:subtitle>During the planning stages for the Sofia Metro in Bulgaria, ruins of an old Roman fortress and city wall were discovered at the network’s proposed Serdika station.</itunes:subtitle>
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<p>During the planning stages for the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia_Metro">Sofia Metro</a> in Bulgaria, ruins of an old Roman fortress and city wall were discovered at the network’s proposed <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serdika_Metro_Station">Serdika station</a>. This wasn’t a surprise. People have been living in what is now Sofia for at least 4,000 years, and when you dig a tunnel, you’re bound to find something. &nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>The agendas of archaeologists and metro builders are often contradictory. Metro builders want to proceed quickly, while archaeological examination can be extremely time consuming. After the construction finished, however, Serdika station resolved these differences into a museum-metro station hybrid.&nbsp;<br><br>Serdika station is just one example of this museum-metro station hybrid. Metro systems in cities like Mexico City, Istanbul, and Rome have stations featuring artifacts unearthed during their construction. Museum Archipelago tries to make sense of these museum-like spaces.<br><br>Links:<br><br><a href="http://www.icomos.org/monumentum/vol23-24/vol23-24_15.pdf">Problems of Cultural Monuments&#39; Preservation Connected with the Construction of the Sofia Underground </a><br><br><a href="http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=433207">MISC | Archaeology &amp; Subways</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/museumarchipelago">Support Museum Archipelago</a></p>]]>
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